Walther LG300- Air Stripper Mod

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  1. JasonGoldsmith66

    JasonGoldsmith66 Banned

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    I tried with both directions of vent holes and the results are the same... in precision but not in the movement of the gun.
    It ´s a beatiful mod.
     
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    It's similar to a Daystate muzzle and even with 16fpe you won't feel the air.
     
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    Rearwards facing vents are the correct direction when attempting to reduce the recoil as much as possible. :)

    If a muzzle break can deflect the air around and make it go backwards as it leaves then it will transfer more momentum to itself (and therefore reduce recoil better) than if it vented the air forwards or only sideways. This comes about due to the conservation of momentum rule.
     
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    See here: http://www.shooting-the-breeze.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3701

    The IROSA vents face front...:confused:
     
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    Did you guys checked the muzzle from the new LG110, aparently it uses 2 cones from the pistol.

    [​IMG]
     
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    It tells me Numb Nut has it got it wrong with air rifles....as recoil is not the issue obviously.

    Now a tank or howitzer, or BMG .50 cal. with vents facing sideways or perpendicular to the canon barrel at 90 degrees is another way of controlling the blast, recoil, and whatever physics you want to throw into the equation..innit ?!...:D
     
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    I can't believe a man who owns so many Walthers hasn't felt the Walther nudge yet! There's definitely felt recoil with airguns, shooting mine with and without a muzzle break is like shooting a totally different rifle.:)
     
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    Nudge :eek: I've seen rimmies move less than that beast :D
     
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    I believe you have to actually fire them to get recoil mate. ;):D:D:D
     
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    There is definitely movement from Walthers,numb nut is very knowledgeable when it comes to Walthers,although I like to call it blowback.I have now fitted 2 uk neil airstrippers to mine to try and reduce said problem after first trying a muzzle cap and rearward facing holes in a carbon shroud.
     
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    So maybe the IROSA design is more concerned with stripping air from the pellet at the muzzle than reducing recoil. :)
     
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    It there

    I put a HW100 silencer on my hunting walther and it cut a large amount of felt recoil;).
     
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    or...:eek: :D
     
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    exactamundo ! :)

    PS: to clarify, I meant Numb Nut got it wrong in the understanding of the vents on the IROSA facing forward....as Its used as a air stripper..
     
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    Lil has just bought a Steyr and i cannot believe how much better this is to shoot compared to the Walther,absolutely no recoil/blowback.I would love to get my Walther as neutral as that,wouldn't guarantee it would help with my results but might stop me flinching sometimes.
     
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    Some very rough calculations for working out the recoil due to the pellet and that due to the air (which would apply for a rifle with no muzzle brake) shows that at 12 ft lbs the contribution to recoil due to the pellet is about 3 times more than the contribution to recoil from the air blast. :)

    So if a silencer was used and it captured all the air following the pellet (or a muzzle brake fitted that vented all the air to the sides) then the recoil reduction would be about 25%.

    If a rearwards venting muzzle brake was fitted and it deflected all the air backwards at around 50% of it's original velocity then the recoil reduction would be about 35%.

    I can post up the figures used for these rough calculations, if anyone is interested. :)

    I'm not really sure how the Steyr recoil compensator works but I can only assume that it reduces recoil for the duration that the pellet is in the barrel and the recoil momentum is transferred to the rifle action over a larger period of time than the duration that the pellet is in the barrel - thus reducing "felt recoil".
     
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    hello, ive been looking at walther LG300's and is this one the new model or a diffrent model ? is it suitible for HFT ?
     
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    Same model, different stripper and it would be fine for HFT.
     

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