UKAHFT kneelers

Discussion in 'UKAHFT Questions and Answers' started by LANKY MK, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. LANKY MK

    LANKY MK this **** is killing me.

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    Hi everyone

    Just want some clarification on kneelers according to UKAHFT rules, i know sitting on a turned foot is a no no but what about with laces down.

    Thanks for the info.

    Mark
     
  2. wyseyes

    wyseyes One Shot Wonder

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    Wouldn't that mean the whole of the leg, from knee to toe would be on the ground? I thought when kneeling there should be 3 points of ground contact - the forward foot, the rear knee and the rear toe(s). In my book, laces down is the same as turned foot.
     
  3. rogb

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  4. Charlts

    Charlts Getting dusty

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    Laces down is fine Mark, stop listening to people accross the road who don't know what they're on about!;) The chap who had a pop at me on Sunday checked the BFTA rules and it's apparently legal in FT too, although I've not checked myself.
     
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    scutter Aspiring to mediocrity

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    Hello Mark,

    This is fully legal

    Kneeler
     
  6. Weevie

    Weevie Banned

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    ...and therefore when you start the NZAHFT your rules will be such that 'laces down' will be illegal.

    However, it's entirely legal in the UKAHFT;)
     
  7. RobF

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    'laces down' is legal in BFTA as well. It's laces to the side that isn't.
     
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    Not sure if the laces down is legal in Bfta Rob

    "The rear foot shall be upright and straight in line with the knee."

    Thus, if the laces were down the foot would not be upright?
     
  9. wyseyes

    wyseyes One Shot Wonder

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    Now here is where the clarification is needed - from the UKAHFT rules above, under Kneeling, halfway down...

    "Kneeling - The kneeling position is defined as only 3 points of contact with the ground (2 feet & 1 knee)"

    Now this implies that having the whole lower leg in contact with the ground is not allowed.

    Then beneath that are four nice pictures. The first two seem to have clear indication of what is right and wrong, with lovely ticks and crosses. But then there are two pictures of kneeling positions, laces up (3 points of contact) and laces down (whole knee-shin-ankle-foot down). Neither of these pics has a tick or a cross, are you saying that they are both correct/allowable and should have ticks?

    Seems to me the descriptions of the rule conflicting - one says kneeling has only 3 POC, the next shows a kneeling position which isn't 3 POC.

    Has anyone been pulled up for a 'wrong' position? As you say Weevie, local rules are local rules. But when we set up a NZ version, I'd like to be doing it right from the start, so when I travel and shoot in your neck of the woods I can attempt to outshoot you using your rules. :D
     
  10. rogb

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    Yes:) But you are quite right, it is confusing!

    I think the rules have been edited when they were revamped and the clarfication has been missed out, because I'm sure it did used to say the "flat foot" was allowed.
    Perhaps one of the Petes will take a look at this and see if it needs redoing?
     
  11. RobF

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    Then perhaps that needs changing, because i've never seen anyone with a plumb line measuring the uprightness of people's soles. The current interpretation i believe is laces down is legal, but perhaps you might like to take it up with Roger :)
     
  12. Scooby

    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    In UKAHFT a flat foot with the laces on the floor is LEGAL.

    The description of two feet & one knee is just used to describe the basic position, the rules can't cover every variation in styles, bean bag position or terrain.
     
  13. nibbley-uk

    nibbley-uk Dirty Daz

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    Or porky legs ;)
     
  14. rogb

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    A short caption under the 2 foot pics on the UKAHFT rules page, along the lines of "both these feet positions are legal" would help avoid confusion though:)
     
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  15. aitchuk

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    I was asked to comment on this on sunday and as far has I
    know laces down is not illegal just painfull for most shooters

    Aitch
     

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