traveling in Europe

Discussion in 'UK Airgun Law' started by rysiu, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. rysiu

    rysiu New Member

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    I am shortly traveling by ferry to Holland driving through Germany and into Poland by car. I would like to know is the legal requirement needed to travel through these countries with a air rifle. The air rifle is of a legal limit bought in the UK.

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  2. Brian.Samson

    Brian.Samson Allowed in Sales Staff Member

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    You'll struggle getting through Germany with a 12fpe air rifle. The legal limit is 6fpe in Germany so you'll need to be issued a temporary firearms certificate.
     
  3. RobF

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    Yes, you won't get through Germany legally. They require an EFP for over 6ft-lb which we can't get. Not sure about Poland. But the BDS in Germany organised all our temporary permits and we were only able to do that because we were attending a BDS event. The BDS in Germany controls all the permits.

    Holland by ferry no problem. P&O were most helpful.
     
  4. rysiu

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    Thanks.
    How much is a temp. Firearm Certificate and how quick will West Yorkshire Police be able to issue one.
     
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    I don't follow/understand. You don't need a firearms cert for the uk for a sub 12ft-lb rifle.

    They only do temporary ones for people coming into the uk that need one (for people visiting with firearms). They cannot issue them for you to visit other countries. There is no way you can legally drive across Germany unless the German government issues you with a temporary license, which they won't do for driving to Poland.

    I would fly. Or if there was a ferry direct to Poland get that. Driving, forget it. You get caught with an air rifle in Germany with no license and you won't be going anywhere further for a few years.
     
  6. dave croucher

    dave croucher FT, the sport where simple becomes complicated

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    Thought Germany raised the limit for the 2004 world's
     
  7. Conor

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    You need a temporary firearms certificate in the country in which you intend to use the gun, unless that country doesn't classify your gun necessary.

    What you DO require to travel is also a European Firearms Pass which allows you to travel with but not use the gun within EU countries. In addition to the European Firearms Pass some countries require you ask them permission to travel in "their"country which requires a 'Transit Visa', gained by sending your European Firearms Pass to their government offices to be stamped and signed. They will also send you a letter stating the exact roads over which you may travel to and from "their" borders.
    The Rep of Ireland requires this AND they state also you may not reside (stay overnight) in "their" country.
     
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    No they got a dispensation from the BDS and government. All their guns go on licence now as they compete at 12ft/lb.
     
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    The Rep of Ireland requires this AND they state also you may not reside (stay overnight) in "their" country.[/QUOTE]


    And so many people complained about New Zealand's laws... :D
     
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    And so many people complained about New Zealand's laws... :D[/QUOTE]

    Currently the Rep of Ireland isn't in the WFTF. :D;) Info was for those possibly flying to Dublin :rolleyes:
     
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    And so many people complained about New Zealand's laws... :D[/QUOTE]

    Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland where the worlds were held are two different countries. The republic is the southern part of the country and has the euro and is its own country. Northern Ireland has the pound and is in the United Kingdom. The republic isn't in the WFTF.
     

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