Titanium shroud/air cylinder finish options?

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  1. marc95e

    marc95e New Member

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    Hi guys, I am going to be ordering a titanium shroud and air cylinder soon for my walther but I want a kind of black glossy finish on them, so what kind of finishing options are there and what are the pros and cons of each type of finishing?

    Thanks in advance

    Marc
     
  2. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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  3. Mr P

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    Having worked with titanium i think you can have titanium colour or possibly titanium so no real pro's or cons, if you start altering the chemical structure you are and will be weakening the micro structure (possible first and last BIG BANG) when filling said air cylinder:D
     
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    Would you be able to give me further information on altering the chemical and micro structure of Titanium ?. For instance if I were to have a barrel shroud , air stripper, and air tube made ,would I be able to heat them up with oxy acetylene to change the colour from the natural ,to the vivid , blues ,and other colours that you achieve from this process ,without having the Big Bang.
    South African Pete , has asked me to ask you ,might you have the required amount of Titanium just kicking about in your back bedroom to have machined up for the the parts mentioned.
    Regards Ger.
     
  5. Mr P

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    Hi Gerard
    Sorry down to my last quarter of a mile of tube so none to spare, if you heat it up to about 1743.000000000958 degrees centigrade it will be totally b*******d so not much good really hope this answers your and south african (LOOK OUT THEIR IS AN ELEPHANT( Pete's question
     
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    Just one further comment , The new Costello motto being , the next time we go to a Safari park" Do it in a Tank "
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    If you are going to want them gloss black painted, you would prob be just as well to have aluminium as there isn't a huge weight difference; most people want titanium to see it in the flesh.
    Since the Lockheeds were painted titanium I should imagine it's oK.
     
  8. neilL

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    Aluminium always has an oxide layer which can be made thicker and porous which can then hold a dye i.e. "anodising" but Titanium can be heat treated to form either a carbide or nitride (or a mix of both) coating which is extremely tough and depending on the coating thickness will have a somewhat golden colour. I think the coloured titanium finish is a thin oxide layer and is not really coloured but just the wavelength of light that is reflected. The TiC or TiN coatings need quite severe heat treatment and would not be something a pressure cylinder would take to :)

    Neil
     
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    What did you use in the end? I like the finish on my zenith, not sure what nick used though
     
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    Hi I have ordered a LG 400 and would like a quick fill. I'm new on here,anyone have Mick Tromans contact details
     
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    Sedgely Ti on here
     
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    Ceathreamhnan WHFTA Champion 2013

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    Look for Sedgeley ti in the members list
     
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    Mick made a titanium cylinder for my EV2 I can't recommend him enough

    Superb craftsmanship
     

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