The Air Arms International - Let's go Dutch!

Discussion in 'News and Results' started by fastnick, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. Eric65

    Eric65 Member

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    Hi all,

    This is Eric, one of the Team Members of FT Schalkhaar. We are very happy to host this event and it good to see the good interest of the UK shooters to come over and visit us. Although we have good experiences in setting up this kind of events, this one will be for sure the next step for us to organize. Luckily we have good support in the UK as well and that makes our lifes a bit easier. We are very confident that it will be attractive event for everybody.
    The outline is a earlier posted so I am not going into that for now. What I want to do here is to tell you a bit more on Schalkhaar and the town nearby called Deventer, so you have an impressing of where you are going to travel to.

    Schalkhaar is a small village near Deventer and there is a lot history around. Deventer is an old town, celebrating 1250 years next year and is one of the old Hanze Steden. The city centre of Deventer has a lot the offer, there are very old and unique houses (the oldest brick house of the Netherlands can be found here) and a walk through Deventer, with or without a guided tour, is a popular thing to do. Also Deventer has the oldest weekly open air market on Friday morning and Saturday, this is taken place already for 700 years every week! Besides that, shopping facilities in Deventer are excellent and there are a lot of nice shops to be found. Deventer is also very famous for printing, the earliest start of book printing was also in Deventer and up to date there is a big printing industry in Deventer. Because of this you will find in particular a lot of book shops in Deventer selling new but also antique books.
    In the city centre you can find a variaty of resaurants, bars and food shops, ranging from simple and cheap to exclusive and expensive. So to everybodies taste, you can find any. Also there is a good varity of hotels, B&B's and hostels around.
    In the near surroundings of Deventer there is a varity of landscapes. Since Deventer is situated at the river IJssel which is believed to be the most beautiful big river in the Netherlands, you can find nice river sceneries. But is a short distance you can find woods and fields as well. Schalkaar is more to the wood and fields area, the green stuff you know.
    I hope this is helping to set your mind on where you are travelling to and make up your mind if you want to make it a family event as well, since for the non shooters there much to do.

    See you all in Schalkhaar next year, we are really looking forward to it. For some more ideas, visit our website www.ftschalkhaar.nl. Although in Dutch for now, the pictures will speak for themselves.

    Eric
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2017
  2. Josan

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  3. Eric65

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  4. BigRonnyV

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  5. Alegazmoz

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    ...... we're going to give the camping a go.
    Probably safest.
    :)
     
  6. Ash Bailey

    Ash Bailey Would-be HFT shooter.

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    Andy and Gary - you've got to bring that Vince with you... or can't he leave the country due to his ASBO?
     
  7. Jonnytaxi

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    This is hopefully, work permitting.
     
  8. scutter

    scutter Aspiring to mediocrity

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    Hello all,

    It has been brought to my attention that the local hotels are starting to be booked up by shooters, I will be putting up a list of hotels and B&B's on January the first, but feel free to go ahead and get those rooms booked.

    Gary
     
  9. Biggles

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    Probable entries from Mike B and Vince Guy - preference is for hotel or B&B
     
  10. The Beetle

    The Beetle New Member

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    Matthew Green, hotel or b&b.
     
  11. Gcos

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    Hello Eric ,
    Is this going to be an annual event sponsored by Air Arms .
    Regards G.
     
  12. Eric65

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    Hi,

    If it works for both parties we think it will be yes.
     
  13. milek

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    Mick Boswell - camping
     
  14. KeithW

    KeithW Barn door? Where?

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    I intend to go. and would use B&B But a couple of questions:
    1) Presumably ferry is the only practicable route?
    2) Bearing in mind a sunset time of 10.00pm, what time is the Friday "night" shoot kicking off?
     
  15. Ash Bailey

    Ash Bailey Would-be HFT shooter.

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    "1) Presumably ferry is the only practicable route?"

    Nope!

    Channel Tunnel and a 4 - 4.5 hour straightforward drive.
     
  16. Eric65

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    1. I am driving quiet regular between the UK (Ascot, Berkshire) and the Netherlands for work and I always take the Eurotunnel. This is for me the most easy way to travel and it takes me always there where I want to be within 7 hrs drive. But it will all depend from where you will leave. Probably from the north of the UK the ferry from Hull could be a good option.

    2. The nightshoot on Friday will be after 10 pm, yes. Since we shoot in the woods it is quiet dark already after that time. The briefing is at 10.30 pm and the shoot starts at 11.00 pm (as far as the planning is for now, we will update for sure the final planning for the event in time). So still enough time to arrive in time for the night shoot on Friday.
     
  17. KeithW

    KeithW Barn door? Where?

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    Are firearms (and by UK legal definition, our air rifles are firearms) allowed to be transported through the tunnel?
     
  18. Ash Bailey

    Ash Bailey Would-be HFT shooter.

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    Carriage of Firearms and Fireworks on Eurotunnel shuttles
    • The rules laid down for the carriage of Firearms on Eurotunnel shuttles are in accordance with the guidelines set out in the UK government Home Office Firearm Security Handbook 2005.

      This can be viewed at the Home Office website: Home Office website
      1. Firearms are not permitted for carriage on Eurotunnel Le Shuttle, unless accompanied by a valid Firearms or Shotgun Certificate(s) corresponding to the weapon(s) carried.
      2. Firearms must be declared to staff at the Check-in booths, and/or as otherwise directed by signs on the Terminals.
      3. Firearms and shotguns to which this certificate(s) relates must be stored securely at all times so as to prevent, so far as is reasonably practicable, access to the guns by unauthorised persons.
      4. It is the responsibility of the certificate holders in each case to ensure that they comply with the conditions of the possession of those firearms.
      5. While carrying firearms in a vehicle on a Eurotunnel Passenger shuttle, the following steps are considered to accord with the duty to ensure the safe custody of the firearms and/or ammunition.
        (a) Any guns must be contained in the locked boot or other secured load carrying area of the vehicle where practicable.
        (b) If the vehicle is left unattended for any reason, firearms should be concealed, preferably in the locked luggage compartment and an essential component such as the bolt or forend removed and kept in possession of the responsible person. Any ammunition should be stored separately from the firearm and this too should be concealed from view. The vehicle should be locked, and any immobiliser or alarm should be set if the vehicle is left unattended whilst on the Terminal before boarding.
        (c) In the case of an estate, hatchback or similar vehicles, the following recommendations should be considered:
        (i) The responsible person should ensure that the lid or cover of the load carrying area is in place and /or that the guns are so covered or concealed to prevent their identification;
        (ii) Whenever possible the guns and ammunition should not be stored together. Where the boot or load carrying area is the most practical place, ammunition should be secured in an appropriate container, ideally secured to the vehicle - if practicable;
        (iii) Wherever practicable, the bolt, magazine or other vital operating part should be separated from the gun and either carried on the person or secured or hidden in the vehicle, or kept in a locked container, ideally secured to the vehicle if practicable;
        (iv) If firearms are regularly carried in such a vehicle, provision should be made for securing the firearms to the vehicle's structure. E.g. security cases, cage, cable or clamp.
      6. Collections of firearms being transported for display or exhibition should be carried in accordance with the above conditions. Where articles are being transported within display cases, the vehicle should allow those cases to be held within the closed luggage or goods area of the vehicle. Where the vehicle has windows into the load carrying area, the cases should be covered to prevent identification of the contents.
      7. The quantity of ammunition carried must be kept to a minimum.
      8. Any vehicles carrying firearms or ammunition are subject to a security check undertaken by Eurotunnel Le Shuttle and in accordance with the Channel Tunnel Security Order 1994. Eurotunnel Le Shuttle reserves the right to refuse travel to any vehicle considered by Eurotunnel Le Shuttle to be carrying firearms or ammunition in such a manner as to present an unacceptable risk to other passengers and staff.
     
  19. scutter

    scutter Aspiring to mediocrity

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    I have spoken to Eurotunnel and they have confirmed that if a rifle does not need a certificate, then one does not need to be presented. You still have to declare the rifle when you check in. I am trying to get a letter from them that we can print out and take.
     
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  20. KeithW

    KeithW Barn door? Where?

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    Well done Gary.
    The next question is ... how about transporting a non-licenced sub-12ft/lb rifle through France, is one likely to be breaking their laws?
     

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