Steyr barrels vs wind!

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  1. Gunit-006

    Gunit-006 Member

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    Hi guys.
    I have a steyr challenge FT long barrel but also have a shorter booth stainless booth barrels would do half size 5p at 50 yards at indoor range, my mate also has a steyr challenge hft model. We shoot hft together and I cant get my head around why his takes less wind, for example 40 yards shot about 10mph cross wind I would be quarter of mildot of wind and my mate stays inside of the kill we booth use Air arms 4.52 but use different batch of pellets.
    I just can't get my head around why his takes less wind. And I've seen this time and time again.

    I need to improve my shooting at HFT comps.
    I'm not really a technical person so to some of you this may seem like a stupid question.
    I would love your feedback on this.
    Regards
    Anwar
     
  2. Lavant_Lad

    Lavant_Lad Old Git.

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    Have you tried his pellets in your rifle? and you as you shoot out to 45yards in HFT thats the range you should concentrate on.:)
     
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  3. nemesis

    nemesis 55yrd standing expert, or was it 8 or 9?

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    Turn yours up to same power as his
     
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  4. Gunit-006

    Gunit-006 Member

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    Yes I've tried his pellets but doesn't like it in my barrel each barrel is different I guess, I do shoot out to 50 yards but in a indoor range.
     
  5. Gunit-006

    Gunit-006 Member

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    Booth of our guns running round 780 ish fps.
     
  6. subaru swift

    subaru swift I don't have a solution, I just love the problem.

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    Welcome to the fun side of airguns, where nothing makes any sense!!! :D
    My 550mm FT barrel might take less wind then the 450mm HFT barrel or Vice versa but that depends on the pellet batches.
     
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  7. Evo

    Evo Scouser by Birth mfta shooter by choice

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    listen the best advice i can give you is take Rob F out for a meal and a load of drinks, i,m sure after 20 pints he might let you into the secret of why it is happening, but whatever you do dont use heavies cos its all bulldung what they say about them
     
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  8. Lavant_Lad

    Lavant_Lad Old Git.

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    So it all boils down to pellet testing, there is no easy answer that would be making just too easy.:):(
     
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  9. shaun eustace

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    You don’t say where the pellet hits the kill or how big the kill is.. could be he aims inside and creeps in the far edge and you give a quarter mill dot and creep in on inside edge!
     
  10. Gunit-006

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    Its hard to tell where the pellets lands unless I'm the 1st few people hitting the kill zone so its a fresh target. Its a good point you make.
     
  11. EV2UK

    EV2UK Active Member

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    Same scope and same magnification?
     
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    If you get the opportunity on a plinking range lie side by side aim at the same point and shoot at exactly the same time. You will then get a fair representation of comparative wind.
     
  13. EV2UK

    EV2UK Active Member

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    Your not cangi g are you? This can give an impression of taking more wind
     
  14. Where's Molly

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    My challenge doesn't take any less wind than any other steyr I've shot.....it's all scale relative whether your barrel takes more wind or less than others...you still have to learn it...it's predictable wind that a barrel takes that I look for...my old 2002 takes loads of wind but is easier to judge the wind as is predictable. on the other hand my old 9015 took less wind but was more difficult to judge when; And how much wind to give .
     
  15. simmmo

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    Did what Shaun suggested a few months back in an open field around the entire clock face my mate was shooting his Steyr and I was shooting a Garage Gun with an AA HFT 500 barrel in it. We were shooting on the count and aiming at the edge of a steel plate painted white.

    The shot releases were very close together it was a windy windy day in an open field all shots at 45yds.

    Conclusions.

    1. Left to Right Steyr took twice as much wind. This was linear so if mine moved a half inch his moved an inch if mine moved an inch his moved two this was repeated over and over again

    2. Right to left there was no noticeable difference

    3.Down wind mine printed tight groups his sprayed a bit.

    4.Into the wind similar to 3.

    Into and down wind there was some vertical dispersion but its a few bottles of wine later and I can't remember what that was exactly.

    The thing to do is shoot out doors in the wind as often as you can and learn your rifles average movement min and max in the wind. Don't shoot at Nockovers shoot at something that allows you to see shot fall.

    All shooting indoors gives you is an idea of how good your rifle pellet combo is with no wind. Though in a fifty yard building there probably is some movement somewhere depending on conditions. Shot with some American benchresters using .22 rimfires who said they put smoke pots out shooting 50yds indoors in the winter because they expect air movement in big buildings

    Monkey
     
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  16. Ash Bailey

    Ash Bailey Would-be HFT shooter.

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    I seem to recall BSA barrels take no wind at-all?

    (I'll get my coat...!)
     
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  17. risingfriend

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    I shoot a lot with cargan and he is full of wind oh and he shoots a steyr ....just ask jennie :D:D:D:D:D
     
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  18. Darron

    Darron Dwarf Slayer

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    I’ve said this before, I had an FTP 900 that took what I believe was a ‘normal’ amount of wind. I brought a LG100 barley twist to run alongside it and was horrified to find that if i had to give 30mm with the FTP the LG100 would need 90mm. There is at least one flat earther and holocaust denier on here who still believes that there’s no such thing as barrels that take different windage! I have a 9015 now that takes 50% the wind of the FTP so the difference between the 9015 and LG 100 would have been astonishing.

    The flat earther won’t have it unless all is tested locked in vices in laboratory wind tunnels, I’m glad I found out early enough.
     
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  19. MickyFinn

    MickyFinn I❤HFT

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    The barley twists prefer shorter pellets
     
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  20. Conor

    Conor Never been banned from sales Staff Member

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    I’ll stick with the Steyr, I enjoy a challenge...get it Steyr, challenge,..
     

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