Discussion in 'Steyr' started by blacklab, Nov 10, 2018.
Thanks...now to find a decent machinist…?
It's gotta be the barrel. Have you ever met Mark. Haha
Slippery slope Andy....
I had an early Steyr and I swear the barrel was made of carbon as it didn't matter how many felts you pulled through it they were always black. It didn't group with any known pellet either, total trash and I'm glad I only lost a couple of hundred on it.
Did you not try a new barrel Colin.?
Yeah, that graphite powder gets everywhere
Steyr barrels are funny old things Colin .
Some are just good from the get go .............(Tim Rosco's)
Some are ok to start with then suddenly decide they need a load of cleaning ............( Rob's )
Some are great for a good while then suddenly decide they don't want to play any more ....... ( N. H)
Nobody seems to know exactly why they are so variable .
They look jolly good inside and seem to be machined nicely.
The leade is a bit long and a bit baggy for my liking but hey , they've been doing this for years .
There are numerous reports and stories of the nickel plated bore giving problems. Some owners have devised fixes for this . ( vigourous scrubbing mainly ).
Steyr are not oblivious to this and have replaced barrels FOC to people that i know.
If Forest Gump had a Steyr ...He'd say the barrels were 'Like a box of chocolates '.
Early days mate, I had the pick of the first 6 in the country and from what I can tell it was the duffer of the bunch. I ended up going back to the 2002 as at least that could shoot even if it kept popping pins.
Got a CZ barrel in there as well. Never clean it and very accurate with AA Fields. Easy conversion. Could's get the original barrel to group properly.
A mate of mine has the original barrel in his Steyr and needs to clean it before every match. It's pretty good then with JSB Express.
Oh, mind you, I did take the old Dremmel out and made it free floating.
My Steyr barley Twist is good for a tin of pellets before needing a clean....the selected one on my other Steyr is just as accurate but needs a clean around the 250 pellet area, both barrels are back on song 10 pellets after a clean and not really that pellet fussy. More often than not a couple of felts are enough with a pull through if the groups are still a bit open. I have a machined CZ barrel that Mark C tried and he said it was as good as his Steyr barrel. His Steyr barrel needs a regular clean and then it's a bonkers 100 pellets before coming good again, however it's superb once it's in the 'sweet spot'. He's just had a HW barrel machined and the very early signs are promising with similar groups/wind and an easier cleaning regime.
Bollox.....I've got the weird thing where i can't edit my posts again Rob???
Anyway, i shot these groups on Friday. Only the slightest push of wind now and again.
Top was 35 yards and 5 shots, ignore the 2 shots below as they were from earlier sighting shots after a pull through..
2nd was 40 yards, both 5 shot groups
3rd was 45 yards, 5 shot groups
4th ...sorry duplicate
5th was 55 yards and a 10 shot group, the photo should be rotated clockwise 90 degress ...no idea why it rotated it???
JSB 4.52 8.44 Batch 46xxxx18
Do you think that the plating is the root cause of Steyr woes? They're the only brand (I think?) that applies nickel plating and it does seem that they're really good but then suddenly, and over a relatively short period, a few go off the boil. Rescue is often reported as a frequent cleaning regime, more aggressive mechanical methods (brass brush with copious amounts of elbow grease) or a replacement. Not being dismissive of Steyr barrels but we do use our stuff in nasty gritty muddy wet places that 10m shooters never do, wondering if the nickel might be a little fragile in a FT or HFT context where we load pellets with fingers that are often a little muddy and once the plating starts to take some wear or damage it's downhill fast?
Can you edit now?
2 and 4 look like the same picture to me?
and the 20 p is smaller in no3
wos goin' on ???
The 4th was at 10yd and the 5th was at 15yd too
Yes Rob, thanks i can Edit now. Sorry i did get the same picture up there....those 2 groups were at 40 yards. And now i can't find the 50 yard piccy on my phone. Hope the wife doesn't see this as she thinks i'm a techno gibbon when it comes to phones.
At least 11 and 16 yards.
I tried the same batch with another barley twist Steyr with good groups. I've got my standby one with a selected barrel to try at the weekend and a rather nice Tx200......so get ready for more piss taking
So the LW barrel will be arriving tomorrow, just need to check out why my cocking lever is sticking mid cock and im ready to throw a tin of pellets through it and see how it shoots at the weekend.