Springers in FT

Discussion in 'General Airgun Chat' started by Nick Ford, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Nick Ford

    Nick Ford New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2015
    Messages:
    13
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Club:
    Basc bfta Tondu FTC
    Might be a silly question but why are there or are there not may springer rifles used in FIELD TARGET..?
     
  2. Brian.Samson

    Brian.Samson Allowed in Sales Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    Messages:
    3,088
    Location:
    Doncaster
    Club:
    Pontefract, Doncaster Airgun Range
    Because it's frustratingly difficult sometimes :D

    It is growing quite rapidly in International FT competitions
     
  3. Welsh Wizard

    Welsh Wizard Hillier has made AA Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Messages:
    2,068
    Location:
    Swansea
    Club:
    Oaktree
    That's cause they cant beat (very often) us with Pcp, or springers come to that:)
     
  4. ellis d

    ellis d Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    942
    Location:
    Leicester
    Club:
    Castle ftc
    Simple answer is, its a lot easier to shoot a pcp and nicer to shoot, a sorted springer is capable of pcp results, but a lot harder to achieve !, personally I like shooting a springer but I prefer shooting my EV2...the sport has moved on gun wise...FT is all about hitting your standing shots...if you can't....then your no where...:rolleyes:
     
  5. Nick Ford

    Nick Ford New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2015
    Messages:
    13
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Club:
    Basc bfta Tondu FTC
    Good answer there thank you. I'm looking to buy an Ev's mrk 3 or 4 but I simply love the challenge of a good springer . I get average groupings sitting and kneeling at 55 meters but standing well let's just say ha ha.
    Regards Nick / Lancelot from Tondu FTC... excellent club and excellent members. ..
     
  6. skires

    skires Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,156
    As a relative newbie I just keep reading this.

    I don't know a lot of people's real or internet names but I think this poster is something to do with pumping and fish? So last year's UK Recoil Champ? Sorry if I'm wrong.

    This ... got to hit your standers or you've lost ... Can't be right. Surely. You may as well just save a load of time and put some standers out ... or see who wins on the Sillies. Let the AA's shoot those and save time for everyone else.

    How many standers on a course? 10% ? So the top guys ( and where the winner will come from ) are only really competing over 10% of a course! I'm not sure what that's about but folk will say it's worked for decades and if it aint broke ... blah de blah.

    Springers are simply harder to shoot consistently. If you are having a great day then you can get pretty close to the decent PCP guys. It's just that consistency. You get it slightly wrong and you will have a very bad day.

    I reckon springer folk are shafted all ends up ... even more so in HFT.

    It isn't just shooting the courses. That's a very small part of doing well at these games. The work is all in the prep and the practice. Shooting a course is then handling the pressure and repeating the good practices you learn on a range on a course.

    So if you are shooting a PCP it's a lot easier ( in my opinion ) to find the right pellet/batch. You rest the PCP on a bag etc and test the pellets. If you get the trigger action right you'll find the best pellet. Using a springer it's still not easy ... and day to day ... to get great groups, even with the best pellet. So finding the best pellet is much harder ( for me ). Is this tin/batch giving poor groups because it's a poor batch ... or because I'm not shooting the springer great today?

    Same with setting up scopes and learning holdover/under or clicks. I've shot a PCP rested with a known good pellet and the POI's are pretty much consistent. Using the springer ( especially the 77's ) the POI's can be different session to session. Is that something to do with the gun, scope, pellets, wind, temp ... or am I holding it slightly differently or releasing the trigger slightly differently.

    Elevation shots have crept into the game. So people have bought Rowan multi adjustable thingies so they can pretty much use their usual stance. Not really a massive problem with a pcp. You get the thing on aim ... you hold it as steady as possible ... you get the shot off well. If you start doing that with a springer and start sliding your fore end further forward, or further back, or you have it sitting in your shoulder slightly differently, the poi jumps.

    Wonderfully satisfying when you are knocking targets down. ****ing annoying, pre-historic pieces of sh**e when you keep missing and you are sure you are doing your bit right.
     
  7. Welsh Wizard

    Welsh Wizard Hillier has made AA Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Messages:
    2,068
    Location:
    Swansea
    Club:
    Oaktree
    30%

    You are correct, this is Mr.Blobby, er I mean Mark Fisher.
    Quiet a good spring gun shooter on occasion and once was a very good Pcp shooter, scores have tailoured off a bit over the last year or two.
    He has a point on standers, miss the 4 or 6 on most courses, guess its 2 in Nefta? and your going to find it very hard in a lot of comps to pull back the missed targets. That's mainly in my view as so many grounds have lost the wind, especially this year!

    This weekend, I shall mainly be shooting a springer, I think its going to be my first Ft comp with a springer :eek: I must read through the fish's posts and jot down the top tips.:)
     
  8. Nick G

    Nick G Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Messages:
    348
    Location:
    coventry
    Club:
    Greyhound/ Purley Chase
    Seconded, this is my first year with my springer, but At the club I can frustrate the pcp boys on a good day.
     
  9. ellis d

    ellis d Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    942
    Location:
    Leicester
    Club:
    Castle ftc
    Actually I'm this years recoiling champ...;) 2015..Marc Fisher (Ellis d)...and according to the welsh wizard only occasionally quite good with a springer and pretty much on the decline...lol:eek::eek:
     
  10. Artfull-Bodger

    Artfull-Bodger Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages:
    309
    Location:
    Llantrisant
    Yay hey, Simon's come over to the dark side!
    Good luck fella :D
     
  11. Sake-San

    Sake-San La Vieille Alliance

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    322
    Location:
    France 87
    Club:
    l'Association Francaise de Field Target
    My psycho-therapist told me I should get a PCP, I recoiled in horror and denial :eek:o, I told her that the joys of Spring are not in question... :cool:
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2015

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice