Sightron 45x target scope

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  1. mrgeoff

    mrgeoff Active Member

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    Anyone have one of these yet? What is the glass like compared to a Leupold Comp?

    I shoot indoors now, and my comp 35x is definitely a lot brighter than my old sightron 36x which helps a lot on the less bright indoor lighting.

    Will this 45x be less bright anyway due to the higher mag?

    Thanks!

    Ps, just thinking that what I need to know is the difference between a comp 35x and a comp 45x as I guess people may have used these 2 side by side. Just how dark does a 45x scope get compared to a 35x scope. Not talking bright daylight, but dimly lit indoor range?
     
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  2. Waldo

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    " dimly lit indoor range"
    You could always fit brighter lamps :D
     
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    Same brightness if good scope x45 / x35, not idoor but shot in plenty of dark woods.
     
  4. GaryB

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    Ive just ordered one so will compare against my x35 leup and let you know. I needed more mag so hopefully it ticks my boxes
     
  5. custompaint

    custompaint Optics Warehouse

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    scope is in the packing department now Gary, it will be with you tomorrow!

    let us know how you get on with it.
     
  6. GaryB

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    Smashing thanks mate appreciated. Just hunting down one of our friendly wheel makers to knock something up so I can use in anger, I’ll keep you updated.
     
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    The Sightron is just as bright as the Leupold Comp, but as I've never used a Comp 35 I can't say if it is brighter or darker than a 45.
     
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  8. mrgeoff

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    Good to know, I’m super tempted if GaryB could let me know as well.

    I have the funds stashed away for the hash ret version if/when that comes out, but I am tempted for an upgrade to the benchrest rig too!
     
  9. C.Eaton

    C.Eaton Confirmed Anschutz Nut...

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    I'd be more than interested in a mil-hash version as well for when my x40 Leup.Comp. finally bites the dust.
     
  10. RobF

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    The 35x, 40x and 45x all get dimmer as the mag increases.

    Unless Sightron have made some amazing undocumented leap in physics, or used many less lenses, the brightness of a 45x45 Leup Competition should be about the same as the Sightron 45x45. Their FOV are almost identical (2.5ft at 100yds for the Leup, 2.4 for the Sightron) so it suggests their focal lengths are very close to one another and thus their brightness will be, given they're both 45x on 45mm objectives.

    You might gain a smidge with different glass and coatings, but we're talking smidges, not 'who switched the lights on/off'...

    The Sightron is 580g and the Leup 576, the Sightron almost an inch shorter. The Leup has 1/4" less eye relief.

    So they're swimming in the same pond. I'd expect (image quality and gearing aside) for them to perform similar to each other in terms of ranging and light.

    Your Sightron is around £1k, which off the shelf you can't get close to with a Leup Comp 45x, they're currently $1k in the USA before import and that's if you can find one.

    I've got a good light meter here so with a fixed known source I can actually compare scopes.
     
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    I have done a side by side comparison in the next CompAir....but you will have to subscribe to.......

    No I'm not that cruel. Optically there is naff all between them.

    For a different reticule you need to contact John Farbrother at Optics Funhouse, he is already talking to Sightron about this.
     
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    Well it arrived today and only having a brief look in the garden in very overcast light I like it. Its what i expected. Its darker than my x35 leup as you would expect but against dark trees in poor light I can still see the dot but in fairness as we’ve known for years you either like the dot or not.

    If Sightron released an FT ret version tomorrow I’d not be bothered, a simple dot for a simple shooter
     
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    Would like to have 45x 50 or 60mm
    For FT will be better than 45mm
     
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    Yep but then you start to get into heavier weight etc. The beauty of this scope is it's simplicity which equals less to go wrong. With a mil-hash reticle I'd buy one in a flash to back up x40 Leup. Comp....;)
     
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    I'd love someone to make a nice compact fixed 40x45 or 40x50 front PA with good FT reticle, ideally like the NATO in the Nikko.
    Very light, little to go wrong, super bright because there's so few lenses. I love my two Bushnell Elites but a little more mag and a little more light gathering wouldn't go amiss. It'll never happen because everyone wants sidewheel focus these days but I think front PA is highly underrated.
     
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    Check out delta scopes not to be sniffed at give sightron run for money
     
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    The Delta Stryker is an extremely capable scope, but it is £400 more expensive and 460 grams heavier.
     
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    Personally I’ll be glad if I never have to reach forward and crank an objective lens around again. At it’s worst you had the mind-mashing temp. shift of the EFR scopes and at best you had the Bushnells with their biting clarity and precision.
    Trust me, side focus is the best evolution in scopes in my very humble opinion.
     
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    I'm so used to it now. There's a minor ergonomic disadvantage that you cope with easily and several big pluses in simplicity, less to go wrong, cheaper to manufacture and fewer lenses. I have a coaster on the PA ring set so it's not far off touching the left of the stock at 55 yards, where the fine tuning is done.

    If Bushnell released an updated front PA version of the 4200 with the same glass, mildots and let's say 10-40 mag at the price point of the old one (800 ish IIRC... or at least kept it under 1K) I'd bite their hand off. I don't think I'd be the only one either, but I think you do represent the majority opinion of the market.
     
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  20. trubadur

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    Yep.
    Heard about Leup Comp.Comp. TMR but not seen myself
     

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