Scottish HFT events under review by SARPA!!!

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  1. Scoch

    Scoch HOW!!!

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    Just had a very interesting read of the GARC Grampian Newsletter,

    I quote " SHFT EVENTS ARE UNDER REVIEW BY SARPA, MANY CLUBS FEEL THAT CONTROL OF THEIR EVENTS NEED TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE CLUBS AND NOT RUN BY A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS"

    This is a quote that Graham Ellis, the chairman of SARPA has put in writing in said newsletter.

    Can you please let me know who you have talked to and I will get their club rep to speak to them so we can address this issue. Every club I attended an SHFT event at was delighted at the turnout and success of the event and the cash generated for their club.

    Can Sarpa please explain what is meant by this, as it stands just now every affiliated club has a rep and nothing is decided without the agreement from the rep from every club. How this can be seen as being run by a group of individuals defies belief. Ther has been a very succesful season ran with everyone enjoying themselves and that is the most important thing. Every affiliated club has also benefitted financially from the Summer League.

    Certain individuals, such as me, collate scores and as such they are published expediently and are made available for everyone in the airgun community to see.

    As an example of SARPAs own failings, have a look at the results for their starred shoots. They have not been updated since May this year, ie 6 months out of date. Hardly the best example of how the organisation works for the guys in Scotland that are wanting to shoot in competitions.

    Second quote "THERE WILL BE A CHANGE IN FORMAT FOR 2011, OPEN CLUB SHOOTS WILL BE SHOT UNDER FRIENDLIER REGULATIONS".

    For an affiliated club to UKAHFT may I suggest that you contact the governing body and ask for your affiliation to be withdrawn. You signed up to host regular competitions under their rules and you are now contradicting this in print.

    I also see that GARC are going to continue supporting SARPA next year but at a reduced fee. What on earth has any club in Scotland got out of the last £150 that SARPA got from us, simple answer is absolutley nothing, and you are expecting clubs to give you more money!

    Graham you didn't even have the decency to speak to any of the reps before you put this in your newsletter.

    You need to learn to separate your role as SARPA chairman from your role as GARC chairman, you are showing your self in a very poor light.

    A lot of Scottish HFT shooters, including myself, have travelled all over the UK this year to take part in UKAHFT shoots, always well received by everyone down south, and always trying to promote Scottish shooting.

    The bottom line is this:

    What are SARPA doing to promote Airgun shooting in Scotland?

    As far as I can see, not a lot!

    I have also posted this on Argun Scotland forum.
     
  2. JAGXKRS

    JAGXKRS Sparky's Bodyguard

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    Err who the hell are SARPA?:confused::confused::confused:
     
  3. Navarone

    Navarone New Member

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    Steve

    On who's behalf do you write this post, is it Tayside Airgun Club or is it as an INDIVIDUAL?

    If its on behalf of the SHFT Clubs, did all the Reps agree for you to post this both here and on "the Airgun Scotland Forum"?

    Please advise.

    Ian

    on Behalf of ALL the Members of
     
  4. Scoch

    Scoch HOW!!!

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    Ian

    What I have to say is my business and no one elses, I have one signature on my posts and they express my opinion and thoughts, I do not need a disclaimer.

    I am a member of SARPA and I don not need anyones permission to ask a question of that organisation.

    Is that crystal clear for you or is their any part of it that is not getting through to you.
     
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  6. Scoch

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  8. rossd

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    Whats that ment to mean timberwolf give us some clues please?
     
  9. Scoch

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    Well said Steve.

    no point teasing us timberwoff...what u saying to it??

    Ross
     
  11. Chris Coombes

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    Scottish Air Rifle And Pistol Association,it's the National governing body for field target shooting in Scotland i believe
     
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  12. JAGXKRS

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    Cheers Mate ;) never heard of em:p:D:D:D
     
  13. chrisc

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    Sounds like they think they're something though:rolleyes:
     
  14. berty177

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    Chris,

    Im not sure what this post is about and dont want to get involed.

    SARPA is the same as the countries organisations such as WAFTA in Wales and EFTA for England for the ft regions etc fella.

    Their the ruling body for the counrty then.


    Berty
     
  15. JAGXKRS

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    LOL I know what would be said if those two organisations tried to tell HFT lads in England&Wales how to conduct there shoots;):D:D
     
  16. Kenny-W

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    Well said, it amazes me how shooters hundereds of miles away from Scotand can understand and see that SARPA are only affiliated to BFTA: which means FT shoots only!

    Basically there nose is out of joint because HFT is an up and coming popular discipline in Scotland and they think they should reap the 'spoils' earned by all the UKAHFT affiliated clubs!

    SARPA have nothing to do with the SHFT (Scottish Hunter Field Target) league and never will, yet they sit and discuss it at FT orientated committee meetings?????
    At the moment HFT in Scotland is in it's infancy and is trying to do the right thing by it's governing body (UKAHFT) but there seems to be a wee bone of contention from a 'New Club' who are trying to renaig on there affiliation and disrupt the current set up and think that a BFTA regional body over see a HFT league :D:D:D

    Sorry to bother you lads down south, but it will resolve itself!

    Kenny
     
  17. JAGXKRS

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    Think you have it in one there Kenny, tell em to "Get tea feck" (I believe is the Scottish expression) :D Look forward to seeing you lads down at Quarry and if you think Maldon was tough you aint seen nothing yet:D:D

    Chris
     
  18. Kenny-W

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    Chris we have an expression up here:............................. YOUR GETTIN PUMPED!


    See you there bud. ;)



    Kenny
     
  19. RobF

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    To be fair, the only shoots any organisation has a say in is the ones that are run by it. Same with HFT as well as FT, and 10m and every other format, unless you happen to participate in a sport where the rules are owned and protected by a powerful organisation. Looking to something like Netball, unless it's for educational purposes, you can't play a competitive game of it, even for fun, in any league, unless you pay your own personal affiliation fee... end of. You certainly can't copy it either, or simulate it... you have to come up with something different. If not, you play by their rules, or not at all.

    It will depend on the constitution the clubs have signed up to, or the relationship they wish to retain and the dynamic between the participant and the organisation.

    WAFTA and SARPA are different to the EFTA in that they are regions of the BFTA as well as National Governing Bodies, the EFTA isn't a member of the BFTA. EFTA does not organise any events except being as a host for the WFTF Worlds when they visit England. It's primary role is to provide an English FT team and to be in the WFTF.
     
  20. Kenny-W

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    Well put Rob, couldnt have stated it better mate!

    Kenny
     

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