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  1. spartan21

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    What is the least magnification you can use on a scope for ft ? And which ones for a Springer rifle thanks
     
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    That's an interesting question with about as many answers as people.

    A number of scopes, like Sightron's and also a S&B I was recently looking at are designed to rangefind on 24 mag, and quite a few shooters still use 32 mag scopes. Even those using 50, 60 or 80 mag scopes don't actually use full magnification when ranging a target. My gut says 32 mag, simply because at longer ranges lower mag scopes have a much deeper depth of field, so getting longer ranges consistently right, or even close enough, can be harder work and more prone to error.

    As for which scope, what kind of budget are you looking at?
     
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    Not sure but no more than a £1000 Or less would be better
     
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    In that case you have a good choice of scopes, if not new, then s/h.

    Go to your club, see what everyone else is using and have a look through them, pay attention to the Big Nikko, they are a bit heavy, but a seriously good scope for the money.

    Have a look at winding back the magnification on some scopes and seeing if they will still rangefind.
     
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  5. Brian.Samson

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    Have a word with John Amos (he's a member of your club) or Nick Murphy and ask their advice about what you should be using.

    My advice would be, unless you have a really really good reason for shooting an LGV - sell it and buy an LGU instead, then work from there. If you look for scopes based on magnification thinking that it's just the magnification that matters you'll end up choosing the wrong scope.

    Your choices of scope should be :
    • Big Nikko ( Nikko Stirling Diamond 10-50x60 - about £700 new)
    • Bushnell Elite 4200 8-32x40 - they don't make them anymore, but 2nd hand examples go for around 300-350
    • Leupold Comp - 35/40/45 - have a Word with John Amos, he'll give you the pros and cons.
    Personally, if you can manage the weight of the rig (bear in mind you'll probably buy a custom stock as some point soon) I'd go for the Big Nikko because they're easy to learn. If you have good eyesight, go for the Bushy.
     
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    Fixed that for you! :cool:
     
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    Been looking at the same question myself, and have found that quite a few "fun" FT shooters use anything from 18x, 25x upto 30x. Plenty of Hawke Scopes in the mix, can always sell it on for much the same if you buy 2nd hand when its time to upgrade.
     
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    Have you seen the Bushnell elite 6500 scope in 8x32x44 side focus they say it has superseded the 4200 .Do you think it would be any good ?
     
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    Scrap that I got that one wrong lol wrong scope
     
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    You mean the 4500? Won't parallax below 25yds - but neither will the 6500 5-30.

    In terms of FT, Bushnell dropped the ball when they discontinued the 4200. They should'vefitted a decent reticle and carried on with it, as it's a better scope than the 6500 and the 4500. Too much hype about sidewheels....

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    I don't think I would consider a Hawke scope for FT, not even club level.
     
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    Do not buy the one they did for FT, I’ve looked through clearer milk bottles on a Sunday morning.

    Big Nikko or Sightron second hand every time. Buy once. Leups take a lot of practice.
     
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    Are Hawke scopes really that bad? My hawke panorama 4-12x50ao is crystal clear! But then again Iv never looked through a big nikko Sterling.
     
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    They're fine for general use, plinking, hunting, HFT. Basically anything that does not require repeatable rangefinding by parallax at high mag (32x plus) in all light conditions and temperatures... i.e. FT.

    I have a Panorama 4-12x40 AO IR and it's a great little scope. The comments are generally aimed at the higher mag offerings which are aimed at the FT market. Nikkos aren't necessarily all that to look through, but they are great rangefinders and very reliable.
     
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    The Falcon T50 or T502 great value for money and will range from 10 yds, I use one on an LGU and a PCP both for FT
     
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    Hi what mounts would you recommend to mount a big Nikko to my Springer? Is there any that will protect the scope from the recoil of the gun as some of the lads are saying the recoil on a Springer will destroy a big Nikko mk 3 scope ?
     
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    I may be wrong but I think the big Nikko is built to handle firearms?
     
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    Is that what you use Daz lol
     
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