Scope manufacturer in the US seeking YOUR FT 'dream scope' set up specs.

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  1. JasonGoldsmith66

    JasonGoldsmith66 Banned

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    ...am in contact with a USA scope manufacturer, who are happy to get feedback from STB Forum members on what the criteria is/are on your Ft dreamscope...


    Will start off, in no particular order of importance:

    1. Magnification : 10-50 X 60

    2. Quality USA or Japan Optics

    3. Sidewheel parallax - 10 yard focus minimum

    4. 30mm or 34mm tube

    5. Sunshade AND Sidewheel available

    6. Faultlessly range find: from 10 to 55 yards, in 1 yard increments

    7. Mil Dot & other, etched on glass

    8. Colour- standard black anodise & SILVER anodise availibility

    9. Eye Relief: .....?

    10. Clicks: 1/8 MOA ? or 1/4 MOA ???


    Last but not least, if this scope has ticked all your specs. requirements, how much would you be willing to pay ?

    ie: a. Nikko Stirling Diamond, b. Sightron SIII, or c. S&B FT money ?


    ....just cut & paste & add your 2 cents please..

    :cool:
     
  2. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    1/ Yes please
    2/ Japanese optics please
    3/ 10-80 yard range please if possible
    4/ 30mm please, mounts less of an issue then
    5/ Yes to both please
    6/ Goes without saying, but repeatability and resolution is key
    7/ Mil-dot is fine but sure everyone has an opinion on this
    8/ Black is fine but no issue with a silver offering
    9/ .........
    10/ 1/8moa 60 click/rev turret.
    11/ Minimal temperature shift say 1yrd/10C ideally.
    12/ Internals will be matt to minimise internal reflections when shooting close to sun.
    13/ £750 top line please, if possible with economies of scale to drive down to £500 mark. Not everyone has mega money or can commit thousands to the sport.

    Hope this helps a little
     
  3. chrispro97

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    just buy a leupold comp with prem ret 27,no problems like s/b,also comes down to 9 yards if reparalxed,spot on ranging,you need it from 8 to 70 yards they do hav them close reducers at 8,or nikko if you cant hak the high mag but to heavy for me,but if i got offered a march at the right money i would hav to hav it
     
  4. Mr P

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    Hi Will with ref to No 12 on your list what do you consider shooting close to the sun then i personally think approx 93,000,000 miles to be close enough for me after all another 100 miles closer you won't be able too breath to well
     
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    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    A good point well made sir! :D

    To explain a little easier, sun shining at a very narrow angle to the rifle where you get white out and halo effects. I know you are not going to do away with the problem completely but may help a little??

    p.s. you won't be interested in the venutian open then? ;)
     
  6. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    Right money for a march will still be megabucks fella "sigh"
     
  7. Mr P

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    What the Flip in eck is the venutian open and by the way as a compromise and for the money you will not get much better than a 40 mag comp not the be all and end all but they are pretty damn good but they do not work for every one.
     
  8. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    When I was looking for a serious scope I had this conversation with a number of people about Leups. The thing that put me off was being told the ranging can be subjective, not snapping in like a Nikko. In the end I did go for the Nikko and to be quite honest i'm happy with it, saying that though is it time, now that I have a little more experiance I had another look through a Leup?

    p.s. venutian, venus, sorry, silly idea of a joke :D
     
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    not a bad joke just me being a lot thick
     
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    These would be my preferences:

    1. Magnification: 25-50x70
    2. Quality lenses is not a question, no white-out, bright clear image, wide FOV
    3. Sidewheel of course, parallax 8-70 yds
    4. 30 mm tube
    5. Sunshade, sidewheel and maybe a big top turret with pellet holder
    6. Reliable rangefindig, no temp shifts, temp jumps or other tricks
    7. Dots on glass, division size ~4/3 MOA at 50x mag (2 cm on a 55 yard target), illuminated
    8. Silver of course
    9. Doesn't really matter
    10. Clicks 1/4 MOA and all in one turn
     
  11. Gibbs

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    This my idea of the perfect FT scope:)
    As for price, I would like it for free. But I would pay Sightron prices for it.
     
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    Not agine

    are we ever going to see this scope how menny time do we need to do this can we have the scope our are the makers just playing with us ?????????

    just an idea
    love doz
     
  13. Bill Peat

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    Jason any responce from scope manufacturer yet fella? it's been a while now.
     
  14. berty177

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    Dream scope

    Sad thing is lads,

    If a manufacturer did make the perfect scope for FT Im pretty sure it would be very expensive to buy.

    You need best quality lenses to make the best scopes and they dont come cheap do they.

    Who knows they might be able to make the scope at a decent price???

    I would want the scope to range from 7yds to 100yds. Upto 55yds isnt any good to us really.

    Silver would be nice mind, with a variation of rets to suit everyone.

    I bet they couldnt make or sell the scope for less than £1500rrp???


    Berty
     
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    I agree Will

    I see your point fella, but you need top lenses to make a difference.

    That is where the cost does come into it, it is like cameras you pay the big money for the lenses.

    That is where the quality is added, the nikko's are damn good scopes and there is enough of the lads and ladies shooting them well every week.

    Build quality is alwaays there and is needed. Doz has had his Bausch and Lomb for 15 years and the turretas are still as good today as they were when they were new.

    The March has the same turrets as the Bausch at first glance but made bigger. Im hoping they will last just as long??


    Berty
     
  17. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    The Nikko does everything 99% of shooters need, snaps in and out cleanly, is fairly temperature insensitive and the mechanics seem to work. Admitedly the image quality could be better but for the price it isnt bad and like you say enough people seem to manage with them. Really would like to handle the american scopes a bit more but on the build quality front the top end bushnells and your weaver seemed pretty bombproof, as for leupolds, but then again getting pricy there. The tag "made in china" does not scare me, so long as the QC is there. Chinese factories are capable of making junk but also capable of making fine instruments. Hewlett Packard (Agilent) are even building laboratory instruments in china so chinese can be good!
     

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