Returning to FT - What gun?

Discussion in 'Hunter (HFT) & Field Target (FT)' started by UpWind, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. UpWind

    UpWind New Member

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    What guns are at the top of Ft and why?
     
  2. Conor

    Conor Never been banned from sales Staff Member

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    Short list to the following, in no particular order (PCPs):
    AA EV2
    Walther Dominator
    Steyr LG110
    Anschutz
    FWB

    IMO the Steyr is best as it suits me. Each gun has its own merits and a different one will suit a different person for different reasons.
     
  3. Conor

    Conor Never been banned from sales Staff Member

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    Important factors to consider:

    Gun fit and handling
    Weight/balance
    Accuracy
    Consistency
    Reliability
    Temperature stability
    Trigger
     
  4. chrisc

    chrisc Lucky git

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    For me the ability to self service as well as those above:D
     
  5. blacklab

    blacklab Member

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    try out the guns first, one mans meat is another mans poision
     
  6. rich

    rich Active Member

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    If you do happen to decide that a Steyr 110 is the way forward for you, please get in touch. We have a club member retiring from shooting and he is selling one, hardly used. He only ever used it at the club and never took part in any external competitions, as far as I know.
     
  7. D Hat

    D Hat Everyone's friend

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    Whatever you do don't buy an FTP , I bought one before Christmas it suffered from zero shift the blueing came off so sent it back , came back with an action that didn't fit properly and leaking from the firing valve. In fairness to air arms they honoured the warranty after I removed the anti tamper.
    They sent a courier out for the gun and then I heard nothing for 10 days, so I rang up asking what was going on, they then said the gun had been damaged and that I had done it so were sending it back, anyway after two days of arguing they agreed to replace the gun and would send a replacement out to a local rfd. Got a phone call from air arms to say the gun was there but damaged by the courier , except for the fact they had left something loose in the box that had rattled against it .
    A replacement was promised a week later but never turned up, so six weeks after dropping the original back at air arms still no gun, so rang up asking what was going on. Was told it was been tested for an extended period and that it was performing faultlessly , it arrived on Thursday , quick look over all looked well. Roll forward to Sunday morning , put a scope on it and take it down the club . It fired five shots before leaking out of the barrel. Glad to say I've got my money back .
     
  8. UpWind

    UpWind New Member

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    Thanks for this.
     
  9. UpWind

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    AR5s

    Why not a Ripley?
     
  10. Count Jedi

    Count Jedi New Member

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    Thats not good, glad you got it all sorted out in the end, I waited 3 months for a FTP, and I have heard such poor things about it that I pulled the ladder up and went for a styer instead. Thats not to say in the future I would not get a FTP (maybe a Mk2 or 3, when they come out.
     
  11. g.l.w

    g.l.w Wonky

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    That's most tactful post I have ever witnessed by you ,
    after all that trouble mate im impressed.................:):)
     
  12. PaulD

    PaulD I like Feinwerkbau's

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    To be honest I think Air Arms have gone over and above what's required by law to help you out Mr Hat? Removing the anti tamper invalidates the guarantee immediately, for them to offer a replacement is a lot more than most manufacturers would offer. I know quite a few VERY satisfied FTP owners so to judge them on a few teething problems seems unfair? Oh and before you ask, no I don't own an FTP or any other AA rifles
     
  13. fireblade

    fireblade Team AirArms

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    The main thing to remember is this......

    Never abuse your weapon, keep it dry from moisture and wiped over with an oily rag after use and any bluing will not come off/rust.

    Never mess about with any parts you are unfamiliar with, or you may well seriously Damage it.

    and if you think you have any problems with it, you must NEVER listen to fellow shooters who say, put oil down the transfer to get more power, this will only lead to tears.

    and never abuse your stock by droping it on the ground or banging it/resting onto/ trees or stumps for a more stable postition....but if you must?, protect it from light bumps and scratches with some gaffer tape temporarily.

    but if all else fails, then A Good Manufacturer would bend over backwards to help you get it sorted ( even when they are not obliged to ).;)

    PS my FTP900 IS SH*T HOT :D
     
  14. D Hat

    D Hat Everyone's friend

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    Air arms effort at curing zero shift, they also told the shop it was bought from it had a replacement stock , they listed everything they did on the invoice including shiming the action but forgot to list a new stock . It's not the problems with the gun that has annoyed me it's the constant lies and BS that came from them .
     

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  15. Craigfishin

    Craigfishin Bsa Goldstar Se

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    i couldnt handle the wait for the ftp so got an anschutz 8002 s2 , im loving it and would recommend them highly :D
     
  16. baldini

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    Dave you forgot to say why you had to remove the Anti tamper, I was at the club when the power dropped, I honestly think you couldn't of been more patient , as you know I sold mine, it hadn't gone wrong for me but unfortunately I hear that the guy I sold it to has had trouble with a seizing cocking arm, I only sold it because my EV which has a Airmasters reg and Mach 1 barrel shoots nicer in my opinion, i also think the A clamp surport assembly is a recipe for zero shift disaster, which pretty much made my mind up really ( my opinion as an engineer ) The accessory rail screw in-bedded in yours couldn't of helped things) No doubt Airarms will get them sorted eventually, after all The mk3 pro target with the mk2 barrel shroud was a great gun with the A clamp removed, ( same trigger as the FTP)
    In conclusion, my thoughts are The FTP would have benefited from a fully floated barrel and simple stabiliser ( adjustable spring and weight ) as the the Steyr.
     
  17. Woody

    Woody The Chaser!

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    Try some out first, have you joined a club yet?

    What did you use when you shot FT before?
     
  18. rich

    rich Active Member

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    I'm now shooting a Hammerli AR20FT with a few modifications. I have to say it is more accurate and more consistent than my EV2 ever was.

    Tonight I've just come back home from a bench rest shooting session with the Hammerli, 20 yards, where you are looking to take out a white spot the size of a pin head. I've shot four cards, a 96, two 98s and a 100. My average this season before tonight was 96.7.

    My average last season with the EV2 was 93.2, with a PB of 97.
     
  19. Neil-T

    Neil-T Boingers forever.

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    Consider a mans rifle

    spring is the thing
     
  20. AndyIoW

    AndyIoW Member

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    There seems to be a lack of them on the FT circuit. There are some around that are made by Zenith and based on the Ripley action. Then some have a Nick Murphy or John Ostler reg fitted.

    I am the owner of the later and have been for 10 years has done me well. I have shot the others but just prefer the feel of the Ripley. Could not put my finger on what was wrong with them, I suppose its jut I have been shooting Ripley's since 1995.
     

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