New Event Timings for UKAHFT 2010

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  1. Scooby

    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    Following on from the holdups we faced at Bisley the following will be in operation from the Tawd Vale round :


    Revised event timings



    1st Session


    • First session booking in is 08:00 to 09:00

    • The safety briefing will begin at 09:15am promptly

    • Any shooters failing to attend the safety briefing will not be allowed to shoot.

    • The session will start as soon as everyone has been confirmed to be at their pegs.

    2nd Session

    • Second session booking in is 08:00 to 12:00

    • The 1st session finish will be signalled by three blasts on the Claxton/horn/whistle.

    • The 2nd session safety briefing will take place 15mins after the end of the first session.

    • Any shooters failing to attend the safety briefing will not be allowed to shoot.

    • As soon as the safety briefing is finished shooters should make their way to their pegs, once everyone is at their pegs & target painting if finished the 2nd session will begin.


    Target timing

    • Shooters are allowed 2mins per lane, this timing starts when you approach the peg.

    • Under normal circumstances a shooter is not timed but if any group is causing a hold up or the session is taking too long due to slow shooters then UKAHFT reserve the right to time individuals or groups of shooters.

    • Shooters may be timed by a marshal without their knowledge to ascertain if they are in fact taking too long to shoot but they will not be deducted any points at this time.

    • Once the decision is made to time any shooter or group of shooters they will be informed by the marshal that they will be timed, they will be told when the clock is started & they then have two minutes to shoot the target.

    • If a stoppage is called during the timing the clock will be stopped & 10 seconds grace given upon re-start of shooting before the clock is re-started.

    • If the target is not shot within the time limit then a “Zero” will be awarded for that target.

    • If a timed shooter fails to shoot within the 2mins limit on more than two occasions at the same round they may be disqualified & asked the leave the course.

    Timing between lanes

    • It has become clear that a contributing factor to holdups is the amount of time it takes groups to vacate a peg having shot, As soon as your group has finished shooting :

    1. Let the group behind you know you have finished shooting that peg, this will save them all chatting away without realising the peg is free.

    2. Then vacate the peg immediately without discussions of the last shot.


    • Although not compulsory, please try to keep in the same shooting order as we still see groups spending time at each lane trying to decide the order for the next shot.

    • A good & fair way to decide this order is to shuffle the cards & ask a shooting partner to say stop, you then stay in this order throughout the round. In a group with Juniors only the adults cards are shuffled.
     
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  2. Kingplinker

    Kingplinker " Horsham HFT champion 2010 "... apparently...

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    Thats a positive in my opinion , I may just try the UKAHFT again if it ran a bit quicker .

    BUT ...

    You can never please all of the people all of the time ;) lol

    atvb

    Dave
     
  3. 5teve L

    5teve L STOP ! HAMMER TIME !

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    They are trying to speed things up Dave remember... :p
     
  4. Kingplinker

    Kingplinker " Horsham HFT champion 2010 "... apparently...

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    It doesn't take me anymore than two minutes to miss Steve :D:D:D
     
  5. dimmer0707

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    Any shooters failing to attend the safety briefing will not be allowed to shoot.

    Best stick that line in the session one bit as well Pete or the session two shooters will think your picking on them:D.
    ATB Matt
     
  6. sultano

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    he is :shot:
     
  7. Scooby

    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    Cheers Matt.....Done :D
     
  8. stillwater

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    At Bisley there was a few groups with juniors in where the Junior was not shooting first,
    After asking one of these groups why this was I was told that as long as the junior shot before there Guardian/parent it didn't matter when they shot. I was under the impression that the junior in the group always shoots first, Pete could you please clarify this rule.
     
  9. Sparky

    Sparky Ich dien Staff Member

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    Hi Greg

    yes the junior should always shoot first mate

    Pete
     
  10. Dazzzle

    Dazzzle New Member

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    For the 2nd session given the numbers at Bisley even using 2 min per peg and moving groups of 4 we would still be approaching 5 hours, if my sums are right., which is about what it took.

    Would it help if using the 1 /1A system that the first group of 60 started 30 mins before the 1A group, smaller groups may move quicker.

    I still enjoyed Bisley immensly even though it was a long day:)
     
  11. Chris Coombes

    Chris Coombes The specialist

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    • A good & fair way to decide this order is to shuffle the cards & ask a shooting partner to say stop, you then stay in this order throughout the round. In a group with Juniors only the adults cards are shuffled.[/QUOTE]

    I think this is a great idea,i know that some people will not want to go first all the time But i for one get fed up with sorting the cards when someone Fooks up,
    So if it works out i have to shoot first every time then so be it :cool:
     
  12. BOMBER

    BOMBER Little French Maid

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    I think this is a great idea,i know that some people will not want to go first all the time But i for one get fed up with sorting the cards when someone Fooks up,
    So if it works out i have to shoot first every time then so be it :cool:[/QUOTE]

    I wish I could shoot you first:D:D:D
     
  13. popsheep

    popsheep Lee Marvin & the Shadows

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    Special treatment for the over sixties

    Dont know if its true but some0one has just PMed me and said that the over sixties are to have 3 mins to shoot their targets is that true ???????????
    Its a great idea but I cant see it my self, thats if I could see it mind you :D:D
    cheers from a oldish over sixty
     
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    g.l.w Wonky

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    Was it wishful thinking by "Chris Choombes" Ian ???:D:D
     
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    Chris Coombes The specialist

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    I wish I could shoot you first:D:D:D[/QUOTE]

    You can shut the fook up :p:D
     
  16. Chris Coombes

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    And you should learn to spell so you can get fooked as well you old GIT :p:D
     
  17. sultano

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    wouldnt matter if you had all week you still couldnt hit a cows bum with a banjo:D
     
  18. elite warrior

    elite warrior MAD 4 IT 2012

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    A good & fair way to decide this order is to shuffle the cards & ask a shooting partner to say stop, you then stay in this order throughout the round. In a group with Juniors only the adults cards are shuffled.[/QUOTE]

    i think this is a great idea
    i for one like to shoot 1st as it can put the pressure on the following shooters should you knock the target over:D, but on the same hand i like to shoot last as it makes a little more pressure for myself,brings the best out of me;).. nothing worse than standing round debating who,s next up...

    also i heard a few people after the shoot (bisley) that they see people hit wood miss targets and still claim 1point for this , and people say nothing:confused: but i think they should stand up and say because it is a great sport ,that DOES NOT need cheating , there is always some one that knows that a target was missed ..


    atb
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    I think this is a great idea,i know that some people will not want to go first all the time But i for one get fed up with sorting the cards when someone Fooks up,
    So if it works out i have to shoot first every time then so be it :cool:[/QUOTE]

    We ask the Juniors to shoot first without a thought to if they realy want to or not, so why should it be any different for us oldies, if your in a group without a junior and your name comes out on top just get on with it like the kids do;):D
     
  20. Sparky

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    With the kids though this was brought in as some parents were complaining that some juniors were getting the heads up from their parents or guardians and therefor getting an advantage over other juniors and this was the only option we could think of, but with some of these scores the kids get these days it doesn't affect them:cool: But they are technicaly not shooting against other people in the group.

    It works both ways, but if you do take it in turns all you have to remember whoever goes last on the lane is then first on the next.

    Pete
     

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