new electric gun???

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  1. Aries

    Aries New Member

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    hello any one know about a new air gun that is electronic? i was around a mates house tonite and he was talking on the phone when i turned up about a new electronic gun

    i know there is a new silver daystate coming out but he dont work for them. i dont want to say where he works for in case its not right or i shouldnt have heard but dont know if any one does know???
     
  2. JamesO

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    Not be Air Arms then:D
     
  3. Ste Hughes

    Ste Hughes Daystate's whipping boy

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    wouldn't surprise me :D

    the daystate way to go about it is very clever but not all that complicated in reality

    its just a mechanical valve, solenoid to act as the hammer, a capacitor discharges to power the solenoid, a pressure sensor/chrono are linked to a microprocessor to determine how much to charge the capacitor and a micro switch to act as the trigger

    anyone of you could build that circuit in a month tops if you wanted - its not hard

    until they ditch the mechanical valve electronics are not that much of an improvement over a mechanical gun

    once they ditch the valve though then it will be something special, ATM they are using electronics for is to replace a hammer spring and trigger sears :D.

    just my opinion of course ;)
     
  4. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    There will always be a mechanical element if we use air (a fluid) as a motive force. However if we use purely use electricity (i.e wrap a coil round the barrel so that it becomes a big solenoid valve, the barrel being the stator, the pellet the bobbin in effect) now that could be fun!

    Will
     
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    Do you mean electric or electronic? Big difference.

    There was a rifle in the local shop that cocked itself by powered electrics, I kid you not. I never found out how many batteries it took and chewed through though... apparently it wasn't the quietest thing for hunting either :rolleyes: A chap down the club bought one, we all looked at him a bit funny, but he reckoned it would be collectable. :eek:
     
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    It might need a rather large battery! :D (High Voltage supply, Capacitor Storage, Conductive Projectiles and a team to service it after each shot) :D:D

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

    Mark
     
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    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    A case of a solution looking for a problem? Bit like them Black and Decker electric adjustable spanners! :D
     
  8. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    And imagine the unpleasentness at the chrono station or when the targets are literally rattled to bits, no problems with wind or pellet drop though! :D

    was thinking more along http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coilgun lines though! :D
     
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    You could fit a handle to it like they have on wind up radios. 1 minute of winding gives 10 shots.:D
     
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    Oh be still my beating heart! :D
     
  13. Ste Hughes

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    to clear what i said up abit

    i mean they make a valve that is controlled by electronics.

    ATM all daystate are controlling something that hits a valve

    they could do it with a stepper motor as the only moving part ;)
     
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    That'd be the Browning Airstar. It had a large rechargable battery pack that clipped underneath the forend and it did indeed sound like a bag of nails being stirred when it was cocking which took about 10seconds per shot. from what i remember it had an on/off switch in the pistol grip and the button to cock it was in the trigger guard. It also had the same style breech as the old Webley Eclipse did, a nice idea but horribly inefficent.
     
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    That's a shame, I really like the thought of the new FT rigs with built in Van de Graaff generators crackling away with ever ones hair on end before a massive thunder clap and electric bolt turns the fall down target into red hot bent metal.....then starts the 'was it a split de brief!!!!! Right back to reality.....WORK. :eek:

    r
     
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    there is just something wrong about electronics, I will remain boudtfull until well and truly SORTED. 3 Devistate Mk3's went down in the rain at Germany in the WFTF championships in 2004, has there been much of a real development since in terms of relaibility? batteries, circuit boards etc
     
  17. Ste Hughes

    Ste Hughes Daystate's whipping boy

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    not heard of a mk4 going down in the rain

    but in our region we have 4 GP's, 3 have been back

    one of which has been at daystate for the past 4 months being fixed
     
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    I see this thread has gone from any one know about a new gun to lets slate DAYSTATE


    BORING GET A LIFE:(
     
  19. Ste Hughes

    Ste Hughes Daystate's whipping boy

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    ok well lets pretend there perfect then.

    sorry if i have upset anyone :eek:
     
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    Just to get back on track.......I'm going to have a rant, and it is nothing to do with having a go at any one company, just a good old moan.

    I get up in the morning and find that my toothbrush needs recharging, and my shaver (well every other morning at least:eek:). My mobile will probably have died and I can't even open my car without something containing a battery. A little music to calm the nerves, no, forgot to charge my mp3........You can see where this is going.....

    When it comes to my hobby I like to pick up my rifle safe in the knowledge that it contains no batteries, of course I might still have forgotten to charge it:D

    James

    Come on Aries, give us something;)
     

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