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  1. C.Eaton

    C.Eaton Confirmed Anschutz Nut...

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    It's a cheap solution on an expensive rifle, says a lot about German manufacture these days to be honest.
     
  2. Yorkshiretea

    Yorkshiretea B Grade Bandit

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    I'd be unhappy if that was a solution to something I'd worked on, just doesn't look or feel right. Not sure what it says Colin but I'd expect to be fired (see what I did there?).
     
  3. C.Eaton

    C.Eaton Confirmed Anschutz Nut...

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    Unfortunately the 'bean counters' rule the roost these days.
    I get it all the time with packaging, start with a killer piece of packaging that is perfect for the item, then a week later after revision after revision to get the size/cost down I end up with the final pack which is a shadow of the starting version.
    No doubt that a piece of shaped neoprene would do this job better, but if it costs 5 cents more they veto it.

    Looking at the Steyr (or any other high end rifle), I really do struggle to see how they can justify the £2700 cost as I'd guesstimate no more than £600 in materials and labour, which means that all the middlemen involved are basically making a shedload for doing very little.
     
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  4. nemesis

    nemesis 55yrd standing expert, or was it 8 or 9?

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    Maybe Andras at Maestro designs could come up with a better design,
     
  5. sven

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    Not to be picky, or that I feel I have to be careful with Germans ;) but Steyr Sport is an Austrian company.
     
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    Yorkshiretea B Grade Bandit

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    Indeed, been there and got the T-Shirt that shrunk after one wash! I think I'm correct in saying that Steyr has changed very little in the last 10yrs but I guess costs go up and distributors now demand 50-70% off MRP so I guess that's where the hike and perceived market value comes into play.

    I'd be so pissed off if someone topped off a design with a bit of packing foam, kind of thing I'd lose sleep over actually.
     
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    Yeah, Steyr should at least invest design time to correct the design failure with that shabby piece of foam, instead of spending time on developing ugly bull pups.
    Steyr could have taken a peek at the Anschutz barrel end and bolt design, and trade that with Anschutz for stealing the Steyr Stabilisator and firing valve design.
     
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  8. chrisc

    chrisc Lucky git

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    The thing is....the foam works and it's dirt cheap to make your own. If you want one that looks 'better' then neoprene works well.
     
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  9. C.Eaton

    C.Eaton Confirmed Anschutz Nut...

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    Very true Sven, that was one pig-ugly bullpup they debuted, you can only hope that it shoots better than it looks.
    Anschutz didn’t steal the Steyr stabiliser system, they simply bought the company in order to get the stabiliser thrown in for free...;)
     
  10. sportsmatch

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    You also do not need the foam just put the pellet in the barrel
     
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  11. Evo

    Evo Scouser by Birth mfta shooter by choice

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    colin you know its Anshitz and NOT Anschutz, :p
     
  12. C.Eaton

    C.Eaton Confirmed Anschutz Nut...

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    Hahahaha, don't worry mate, there's one out there with your name on it for when you finally see the light...:D
     
  13. nemesis

    nemesis 55yrd standing expert, or was it 8 or 9?

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    Anschutz don't own Steyr they have part ownership
     
  14. C.Eaton

    C.Eaton Confirmed Anschutz Nut...

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    51% I seem to remember, still it's a novel way to get hold of some tech you want.
     
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    If you've ever fumbled a pellet when on the clock and it then sticks under the barrel so you can't get the bugger out you'll be thankful for a bit of packing foam. It does look poo though and is a 5p bodge to a poor ergonomic design.

    51% is a controlling interest. Quite a common way for companies to get hold of tech; often better than expensive licencing agreements. They then control the rights and can licence it out to others or sell it as they choose.
     
  16. sportsmatch

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    Shame the Anschütz version has a habit of shearing
     
  17. C.Eaton

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    Yep, right pain in the butt. Luckily I've only had one so far.
     
  18. Where's Molly

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    We drilled out my transfer port on my challenge
     
  19. cloverleaf

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    Another thing to try if you can be arsed it to re-test the gun with 85bar (or thereabouts) in the cylinder - if the energy shoots up you have a reg issue.
     

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