My gun was never broke, my pellets were?

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  1. NJR 100

    NJR 100 Because I`m AWESIME !!

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    Over the summer I have been having the odd pellet drop low (inch at 40 yards) costing me Gp targets with the old Njr and the mozzies.

    I started using mozzies about two years ago when I switched from Jsb as i found I "Had" to weigh Jsb, there were so many light and heavey pellets that i only managed to keep on average 300-350 8.3 -8.5 Jsb per tin. As much as anything, i dont want to be weighing pellets!

    Anyway, the switch to Mozzies saw flatter trajectory (set for 810 fps) and my scores start to creep up, when all was well.
    Of late, things have been all over the place, nearly 80fps varience between shots and i dont need to tell you at 45- 55 yards thats going to make a difference.
    I had put it down to the fact the Gun has not been served for at least 5 years and the cold weather is affecting it.

    So, with a tip off from Holly (Thank You) i purchased a Tm 100 locally on sunday. I went and tested it before buying, consistancy was good, 10 or so shots for about 8fps, much better than the average of 25 fps i am used to with the Njr. Accuracy with the Mozzies was fine.

    Put the Mk4 luep on the "New" Tm today and set up down the club in seemingly windless condidtions (bit of luck?), all fine apart from the difference between olympic trigger on the Njr and standard on Tm. When i got used to the Tm trigger, the pellets started going in the right direction.

    So tonight back home i decide to chono (my little Combro) the "new" TM action. Set for 810 and with the new mozzies baught this morning (which i had used to set up) its pretty good at about 8 fps over 20-30 shots.
    Even managed to adjust the trigger to give feel simular to olympic trigger, so happy days!

    I then decide to check the Njr Action as the other day i turned it up and put a few of the falcon 7.3g pellets down the range at 845 fps. apart from being taken by the wind more at 45 yards plus, they were very accurate and a much flatter trajectory than mozzies.

    Amazingly, the spread over about 20 of the falcons going down the NJR barrel was 6 fps??? I was Somewhat bemused, as I was convinced the reg was leaking / faulty /needs a service!!

    Tried the "new" mozzies baught today, 20 shots = 12 fps??

    Mmmm, try the old Mozzies (last tin), the ones i have been using through 2009, back to "at best" 25-35 fps and the odd shot pushing that to about 60 fps?

    So, i am now thinking the Njr was / is not broke and that the mozzies i have been using through 2009 were crap, or at least not suited to my Njr? I tried them (the old Mozzies) in the Tm and got 20-25 fps spread.

    Morral,

    1 / bin old mozzies, by all new in local gun shot.

    2/ Set tm for mozzies (its got the scope on and is set up) and

    3/then buy new scope for Njr and set with Falcon, for the odd days shooting when there is no wind!!


    So, anyone recomend a fixed mag 35x sidewheel scope?
     
  2. countorik

    countorik BFTA C Grade Champion 2010

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    You just missed a cracker. Holly likes it.
     
  3. RobF

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    try sizing them... although worse than what i saw, it sounds like the same symptoms.
     
  4. mikewills8904

    mikewills8904 walthers last the course

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    simon

    sell both guns .get yourself a domi and leupold comp.buy a new coat .get your hair shaved :p

    but you will never be me:eek:
     
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    berty177 Judge Diva

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    Well Simon it has to be said fella, it has taken you this long to find out that??????

    Take your time now mind, wouldnt waant the wheels to fall off anytime soon hahahahaahahaaaa...

    Berty
     
  6. NJR 100

    NJR 100 Because I`m AWESIME !!

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    Your right Big Mike, I will never be you, I`m big enough as it is and cant put more weight on lol!

    Still, if I pick up a decent batch of mozzies I will beat you at some point this year !
    In one way its far more satisfying hitting targets with old equipment you have to work harder with rather than the super accuarte Domi's and Ev2's !
    Already done Berty's Dommi on more than one occasion haha :p!

    No I think i will stick with the old ones for now, just need to find a 2nd scope now?

    Think its either falcon T35 on mk3 big nikko?
     
  7. NJR 100

    NJR 100 Because I`m AWESIME !!

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    Got myself a supply of o rings from God above so self reparing now lol!

    you boys with all this equipment that works must be really ashamed of yourselfs every time you miss, at least i can blame the gun + scope for falling apart.

    remnds me, need more duct tape!
     
  8. holly

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    Accurate ?

    Simon . whatever this bunch tell you about there super accurate rifles . do NOT believe em . the modern rifles are more reliable . made of more modern materials . better on air . BUT more accurate . NO . i have tried em all and shot against em all . and the oldens are just as good accuracy wise .and at the end of a comp . you can truly say . it was me and the rifle did that score . not as in the new rifles case , just the gun ??? HOLLY
     
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    and old rifles give holly more excuses...
     
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    mikewills8904 walthers last the course

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    old rifles

    i have nothing agaist old rifles.its just the new bread are more reliable ,and easier to maintain
    and nicer to shoot and if you miss you know its you not the gun
     
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    My old GC2 now retired number 113 . went five years without being touched , service wise .qualified me for the showdown for ten years . now tell me that a modern rifle will go five years with out being serviced . ??? HOLY
     
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    Holly you maybe right there fella, my Walther hasnt had to be touched in over 2 years, not even the power to be adjusted, the newer rifles are like you said better developed for the sport.

    Did you actually qualify for the showdown then 10 years in a row?? Remind me what years they were between, just curious? Cos Im sure you werent there couple of years ago Holly. Plus if the GC2 was that good why have you retired it? If a rifle has brought you that much success, you shud stick with it??

    Berty
     
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    mikewills8904 walthers last the course

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    there we are then .all hail the gc2:p
     
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    Qualified ?

    Yep i have qualified every year cept one since 92 i think it was . the GC2 had to be stood down cos i managed to score the air cylinder with the stock bolt . it had crushed the washer and it just went through and damaged the cylinder .shame that . but the new one is as good as new inside , so i am hoping that it lasts a fair while yet . which year are you talking about and i will show you the badge ? after the GC2 problem i went over to the anshutz . but it does not feel the same to shoot as the GC . you boys can shoot what you want and can afford , but you will never get the quality in modern rifles as the olduns .??? HOLLY PS retired . who has retired . i still drive a brick grab lorry for jewsons . they reckon on a cold morning you young lads cannot get out of bed .
    NOPE had a look and the earliest one i can find is 94 ?
    By the way i had to wait till the last GP of the year on three occasions to qualify . now that is pressure . but the competition was stiffer then . more quality shots about . the standard has dropped way off , nowadays .
     
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  15. NJR 100

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    Back to the future today.

    Tipped half a tin of mozzies in to the pouch this morning on top of what was left from a very good days shooting Wednesday.

    Today, fps all over the place once again, 40 fps spread with a flat sounding gun as the fps dropped and of course at 55yards strikes about 1 inch low = miss!

    So, as all pellets are from the same batch, are there duff tins? Does my Njr have off days as it was cold today? will put the temp strip on in the morning!

    The joys of classic Ft!

    Plan A,

    change nothing, club in the morning, chron check with same pellets.

    Then

    B/ Change pellets.

    c/ Change gun!
     
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    Clean ?

    Are you cleaning the barrel as a regular thing mate .??? HOLLY PS after two days shooting my GC2 goes off group size wise . two patches and back it comes after about 30 to 40 shots
     
  17. NJR 100

    NJR 100 Because I`m AWESIME !!

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    yes, normally got the barrel clean after every shoot. Groups spread with a dirty barrel, cant say i have had problems with fps though.

    See what happens today?
     
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    He still couldn't hit anything today :D lol think that was my fault though he helped me setup my scope and shiney sidewheel :D:cool::eek:
     
  19. NJR 100

    NJR 100 Because I`m AWESIME !!

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    Not entirly true.

    Gun was chrono checked and fine today, but it was warmer!

    Did adjust my clicks by +6 at 50m, but others were saying things were dropping too??

    Will check again next week, when i suspect it will be shooting high:D

    Unless you hit 20+ at avon hawks tomorrow dont tell anyone i helped set your gun up, its all your fault:eek:!

    Good luck for sunday
     
  20. NJR 100

    NJR 100 Because I`m AWESIME !!

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    its my pellets again

    Did a 90 shot chrono check tonight, warm room so cant blame the temp this time.

    On the whole very good, but did get one flyer at 841 :eek: and low of 801. Av was 813 with most withing + / 7 of that so happy enough, i think.

    See what tomorrows practise session brings?
     

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