LG 110 Early & Late Model Differences

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  1. Charlie 11

    Charlie 11 Member

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    Are there any internal valving differences between the early 110 models and the later long chassis models with the hockey stick cut outs.
    I guess the longer quick fill cylinders give more shots?
    Are the short and long cylinders transferable between models?

    Apologies for all the questions- LG110 are new to me!
     
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    cylinders transferable between models. Quickfill is not handy, better way is to buy an additional cylinder. 2 cylinders gives me ~200 shots. Enough for training and competition and I can leave the scuba tank at home
     
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    Quickfill is better.

    If you constantly remove the bottles you can stretch the threads and shave metal into the reg if they're not maintained properly. We are starting to see it on some older LG's.

    If you've had a QF fitted though you need to ensure the work has been done by someone who knows what they're doing, not someone who's just had a go and may have used methods and tooling not suitable for 2 tonnes of pressure per square inch, or who may have left swarf and cutting fluid inside. (seen both)

    The long cylinder will fit on the short gun, but the short cylinder is too short for the long gun.
     
  4. sstyle

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    Just replace the reg after 5 years if it damage. I do not know no one shooters in Russia with QF and nobody has an issue with reg metal. Some Steyrs 10 years old. But the major benefit is to leave the scuba tank at home!
     
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    You don't shoot enough :D

    The problem is that any metal coming off the thread finds it's way into the reg and beyond requiring the gun to need a service.
     
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    But ISSF shooters shoot much more. I am agree about service, but it is ok to service your rifle sometimes.
     
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    Issf shooters shoot 6 ft-lb. They get many more shots from a fill than FT shooters do.

    If you have metal going through your reg then it needs a rebuild. Once it's done it the reg is no good. The problem can affect the valve and the hammer. We've seen it cause an issue within 50 shots. That was a gun which the person who had done the quick fill had not cleaned the cylinder out.
     
  8. Charlie 11

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    I have just bought a spare short cylinder, so I can have two full cylinders with me and leave 12ltr bottle at home.
    My rifle is a 2010 model and examined the reg under a loupe and couldn't see any problems.

    Will a short cylinder with a quick fill fit a late model and do the conversions retain the gauge ?
     
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    Right, but they are trained every day.
     
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    Last question - for now :D

    Hows the balance ? - I'm guessing the long chassis model has more up front - before scopes and hamsters etc are added
     
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    Should do. Steyr sell a conversion to go from the gauge non QF cylinder to a QF with a gauge but you'll need to find someone that has the tools and knowledge to do it.
     
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    Yes the Long has a more weight up front. It's more stable on sitting shots (FT) but is more of a struggle on standing shots (I found).
     
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    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    Sage advice


    From the man with unsolvable consistency and accuracy issues ,
     
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    1) I have a new reg. So the reason of my issues is not related to QF/spare cylinder.
    2) Other our shooters has a stable 10mm group size with 10 years old rifles and w/o QF.
    3) ISSF shooters became a world champions without QF, so they rifles have to be very stable.
     
  15. Charlie 11

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    Thanks Rob - :cool:
     
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    Just looking at your post... sorry got distracted...

    There are valving differences on early LG110's.

    Some came with the knock open valve seat seemingly bonded to the action. They fail. Result is they can't be changed, and unless you know a machinist who feels experimentally brave, it's a dead duck and Steyr's solution is to change the block (which is £100's).

    In the past they've changed them under warranty (which they did for someone i know) but I've heard they've stopped doing it.

    Personally I think they should have recalled them.

    I don't know the ones that are affected, I believe it's only very early LG110's. I think the only other differences are the bearings in the trigger and the trigger blades. The chassis have changed along the way, longer, then shorter, then one that's finished with bevelled edges on the chassis... then back to another look, then the challenge (which appears to be a cosmetic overhaul).
     
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    Is it wrong to have more than one LG110 :D
     
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    I've got a friend who did. What he gets up to in his own spare time is his business. And a source of our amusement :D
     
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    No.....:cool:
    I've got 2! & the so called rainy day back up one is just has good as the main one..... I'm the weak link so to speak.:(

    Enjoy.
     
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    I have 2 too.....one for HFT and one as a back up, but the backup will soon become a FT one.
     
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