Kneeling Rolls

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  1. Brian.Samson

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    Looking for some advice on buying one for use in FT (I'm going to have a go at trialling one in the NEFTA Winter League)

    I've never used one before and know sod all about them. Apparently they come in different sizes.

    Since it's for use in FT, I'll probably be looking for something that's waterproof?

    So really what I'm looking for is some advice on how to measure my kneeling position for fit, and some advice on where to buy one from.

    Cheers
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    I'm not sure if there legal to use Brian..!
     
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    10cmx35cm foam roller is a cheap and waterproof alternative.
    You can get a 10x90cm and cut it into three pieces, only a few quid.
     
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    Stick to the Midlands :D
     
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    This isn't a trial to try to gain an advantage it's a trial for changes to the rules in WFTF.
    I'll trial one on club shoots to start with and have a word with the NEFTA committee to see if I can trial it in competition.

    Don't worry, it'll be all above board - I won't be breaking any rules :)
     
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    Just read Brian's reply.
     
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    So you reckon 10cm is about right then Conor?
    The Sauer one on Intershoot is 15cm?

    I'll pick up a bit of 10cm foam and give it a go, it's cheap enough that if it doesn't work I haven't lost much.

    (10cm is also 4 inches so falls within the definition of a "Legal Seat" in the current rules too :D )
     
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    What's the definition of a "legal seat" in the Midlands and is there a limit on how many of them you can have?

    Seriously, this isn't an attempt to circumvent rules to gain an advantage, it's a trial. Personally I don't see a problem with carrying round a bit of foam roll, what advantage would I gain over rolling up a beanbag and putting that under my ankle? The difference would be that I couldn't gain support on my thigh and bum from a large puffed up beanbag.

    If it works out ok, who knows maybe it might be adopted by the BFTA at some point? It could solve some issues and put an end to all the squabbling about the kneeling position. This isn't for that though, this is for a possible change in the kneeling rules for the Worlds in Portugal.
     
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    10cm foam roll is fine, I've tried the 6" (15cm foam roll and its too big.
    The Olympic discipline approved ones are bigger but they squash and there is a book of rules on the type, quantity, dexterity and firmness of the filling material.
     
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    Shaun shore would be a better person to ask on bean bag rules in mfta..me personally I would prefer to use the roll for kneelers;)
     
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    If it works out ok, it might catch on - you never know ;)
     
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    Kneeling roll

    Brian
    Buy an exercise mat for about £4 from inter sport , roll it to what ever size you want and cut.
     
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    Ive been saying that for years Mark, add a roll and eliminate the beanbag on kneelers to eliminate the doubt.
     
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    Kneeling Roll

    Hope I don't end up having to carry a bean bag and kneeling roll around a course.
     
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    A foam roll will weigh about 150g - so it'd be like carrying a large apple. I think if I workout down the gym, in time I'll be able to manage it :D
     
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    Main idea would be that it would be provided on each kneeling lane so everyone has the same to use if you choose to use it.
     
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    Just to make this clear, this is for the FT World Championships (WFTF)

    I'm just asking for a bit of advice, but I've ordered something now with Conors help ( cheers bud :lev )
     
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    Did you go for the yellow or pink 10"?
     
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    Couldn't decide so went for 2 tone - Yellow/Pink swirls
     
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    Kneeling Roll

    It may be the same weight as a apple, but it will be considerably bigger, it certainty wount fit in your jacket pocket. What if the kneeling lane is muddy, or has a gravel / stone surface, do you wear a kneel pad, or kneel on the edge of your bean bag.
     

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