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Discussion in 'General Airgun Chat' started by Gary Martin, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. Gary Martin

    Gary Martin sultans of spring

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    now that the hammerli ar20ft has been out a while, want to ask owners of their opinions of them. at some stage i am looking to upgrade from an air arms s400. i use it for field target. want a regulated rifle. comments welcome.
    Gary.
     
  2. NJR 100

    NJR 100 Because I`m AWESIME !!

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    Not owned one but used one enough.

    enough to now its not a gun i would buy personally for ft.

    I found it (out of the box) too front heavy and the trigger is not great

    I think Ar20 are around £600?

    for that i would be looking at a pro target or Rn10 ( £4-500) or NJR ( £3-400)

    pocket the spare for a better scope?
     
  3. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    John Sears uses one regulaly and would be a good man to ask. I own one too and yes they are front heavy but personally (and balance is a personal thing) i like that. The trigger i've felt to be fine with a nice crisp release. The cocking does come up for critisism but find it does get smoother (still comparitively heavy though) after a short period of shooting them. Accuracy and consistancy both seem good.
     
  4. Gary Martin

    Gary Martin sultans of spring

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    chrono

    what is the consistancy over chrono. what ammmo are you using etc.
    gary.
     
  5. Willbe

    Willbe I Like BIG Hats!

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    Cannot remember off the top of my head but a 10fps spread srings to mind, maybe less. This was with JSB Exact (8.44)
     
  6. john sears

    john sears old but not so wise

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    hi Gary
    I've been using my AR20 for about 10 months with no problems has yet.
    Over the chrono the spread is 6fps pellets are jsb express 7.9
    I found the rifle to be a little front heavy but with a little mod like butt hook it helps with the balance over all love the rifle :)
     
  7. Steve Bowers

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    Hi Gary, I too have had a Hammerli for a while I got mine from the second batch to hit the country, the first batch sold out in days !
    All that has been said is true (frount heavy,stiff cocking etc ) but for around £600 you can't go wrong !

    As for NJR 100 's (pro target or Rn10 ( £4-500) or NJR ( £3-400) )this too is sound advice but he is talking second hand and I for one think a GOOD second hand Pro target at £4-500 would be like finding a load of rocking horse s**t.
    Also if we go to second hand, Hammerli's are going for the £400 mark and there are lots up for sale !!!

    I've just started shooting in the winter NEFT FT and my first three scores have put me straight into AA!!!So the gun must be up to it (coss I'm not !)
    If you check out my pictures you will see that I've made a few changes to mine .The changing of the standard steel air cylinder to an ally walther was the best !

    Steve
     
  8. nemesis

    nemesis 55yrd standing expert, or was it 8 or 9?

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    Hi steve,Did you get that piece of wood that someone handed to me at anston?Kept bringing it down to the club,eventually gave it to someone who told me that
    They will be seeing you last sunday.
     
  9. Steve Bowers

    Steve Bowers Member

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    Yes thank's see you this sunday !!

    Steve
     
  10. Ratinator

    Ratinator Well-Known Member

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    beg's the question

    Might be just me ,but if these are any good why are there so many for sale?:eek::rolleyes:
     
  11. Steve Bowers

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    Hi, a very good question and one to which I do not know the answer.
    You could also ask why some people drive Skoda's and others drive Jag's or why some buy a new car every 3 years and others keep their car while ever they keep running ?
    If some one wishes to give me a few thousand I would be selling my Hammerli straight away !
    I don't think any Hammerli owner would say is was the best gun in the world, it's just a good buy for the money !!!:)
     
  12. MojoCrow

    MojoCrow New Member

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    I got my Hammerli simply to stop me from tinkering with my S400. I'm pretty much shooting a consistent 56x60 (when I do my part) with my S400 so I needed something to satisfy my urge to tinker.

    The Hammerli will do as my 'toe dipping' Bench Rest rifle and emergency backup HFT rifle when it's not being fiddled with.
     
  13. luddite

    luddite I Love HFT

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    I had an AR20 for six months and found the trigger to be too heavy so I set it up single stage which made it just about tolerable.
    What spoilt it for me though was the extremely heavy cocking action.

    If I had to chose between an AR20 and a decent Pro Target it would have to be the Pro Target
     
  14. Steve Bowers

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    Hi, LUDDITE

    All I can say to you is take the cocking lever out and polish it.It's made of ally so it should look OK and be smoother to pull !!
    Your other choise is to take up weight training !!

    Steve
     

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