Valid points but i was talking about national shoots where the quality of shooter needs a challenge. When setting a course there should always be a few that everyone can get but i wouldn't expect to see a 'gimme' at say the worlds. BTW...Emley will be setting one of the courses for this years worlds so myself, Kieran T and Liam will be the ones you need to kick up the chuff if things go wrong. I've already got 39 new and totally refurbed targets ready to go with quite a few more in the pipeline. My plan is to have a set of 60 HFT comp only targets. We will use some for the UKAHFT pre season shoot in March.