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Discussion in 'Walther' started by hmangphilly, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. hmangphilly

    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    got my luvly gun today ...she's smashin'

    first thing is trying to top up the cylinder quite a lot of air is escaping from the adapter and cylinder
    i'm doing it wrong aren't I ?
     
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  2. RobF

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    Escaping from where?
     
  3. Jinx

    Jinx Non member

    I seem to recall with some guns,
    1st of the RN10's to be exact, you had to cock them 1st or air did leak from them while filling !
     
  4. RobF

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    Ok, so the cylinder is off the gun yes?

    And you put the adapter into the bottle. And screw the cylinder onto the bottle yes? And it leaks then? Or it leaks when you remove it?

    With the walther there are two adapters. A shorted 200 bar one, and a longer 300 bar one. If you use the wrong one for your bottle it will leak. The 300 works in both 232 and 300 bar bottles.

    If it's filling without leaking and just leaking after you've taken it off the bottle it could be the filler valve on the cylinder is stuck open which isn't uncommon. There's remedies for that.

    If you're really stuck im back at the ranch this eve and you can pop down...
     
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    the same with air arms:eek:o
     
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    Wont make a difference on the Walther.
     
  7. Jinx

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    YEP,
    The RN10 was the product of the Air Arms outfit indeed.
    Nice guns, still using a pro target i bought from Neil T on here, and love it, just dump the reg and get one that works and they are ace :)
    Best loading system ever invented in my opinion.
     
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    what gun is it,
     
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    A Walther... :)
     
  10. hmangphilly

    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    sorry fellas I had to go out suddenly ..
    so...
    put the adapter in the bottle.
    only got one adapter with the gun , according to the pic in the hand book it's the 200 bar adapter , my bottle is 232 bar so that should be ok.
    nice and tight ...not mental... but well nipped up
    screw the cylinder to the adapter , when it's maybe 3/4 of the way on the air starts to leak and continues to do so even when the cylinder is as tight as I can get it by hand.

    I had a little look down the threaded hole of the cylinder ...is there an o ring down there to seal on the un threaded end section of the adapter ? ...it would make sense but I cant make it out .

    if there is a tired seal down there that might be the problem.....

    lwhere's my magnifying glass ...?
     
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    I take it you have closed the bleed valve,is there a hole in the top of casting on bottle, if so it may be comeing from that.
     
  12. Neil-T

    Neil-T Boingers forever.

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    The 200 bar adapter is not long enough to reach and form a seal in the neck on your 232bar bottle. You need a 232bar or 300bar adapter. Neil.
     
  13. hmangphilly

    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    thanks for the suggestions fellas

    theres no bleed valve... the walther adapter just screws straight into the din tread of the bottle .

    the 200 bar adapter is bottoming out in the bottle thread with a couple of threads to spare so i'm confident that it has seated .

    the air seems to be coming from betweem the adapter and the cylinder . not the adapter and bottle
     
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    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    hmmmm there is an o ring about 10mm down inside the thread of the cylinder.

    but it doesn't leak when attached to the gun.
    so .. dicky adapter ?
     
  15. Lee67

    Lee67 Dink ! ...****'

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    If it leaked when on gun it's the small 7x2 o ring down the cylinder, ...make sure the tank bleed valve is closed..and don't bleed the air once upto bar.....just unscrew the cylinder...u will hear a quick little blast of air.....I'd advise buying the new later best fittings probe that fits to end of whip as usual..much easier ;)
     
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    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    thanks chum .
    no, it doesn't leak when on the gun you just get a little internal swoosh when tightening up the last 1or 2 mm.
    I havn't got a bottle bleed valve . the walther fiiting screws straight into the top of the bottle,
    I think you're on the right track about a new fitting , who does these please ?
    those 7x2 o rings....will just standard Viton one do ? I can get them over the road .
     
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    Lee67 Dink ! ...****'

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    Best fittings for new fill probe...if cylinder isn't leaking then leave o ring alone;)
     
  18. hmangphilly

    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    thanks mate ,they're only down the road too.
     
  19. hmangphilly

    hmangphilly Not quite a full phil

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    thanks Rob

    Thank you Rob .

    Rob had a look at my problem, he screwed in one of his 200bar adapters to my bottle ....it leaked too.
    He sussed straight away that the leak was between bottle and adapter just as you gentlemen suggested and contrary to what I thought.

    then he tried one of his 300bar adapters and... sorted... no leaky.
    He says he's seen this before .

    many thanks to all here who have offered help it is much appreciated.

    next ...fit a scope.....
     
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    I had this exact same problem with mine. half an empty tank later :(

    Then I coughed up for the 300 one at best Fittings and fills a dream, Only place I go for my Bottle/lines great staff :)
     

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