Thank's to Kev Sayers, Chairgun, raising my scope and the narrow field of view through it, I have finally conceded. And I'm now in the process of setting up my scope for dialling!! I never thought I would go down that route, but it's now the only logical path to take. So, I now have a few newbie questions about dialling. With holdover, you turn up at a shoot, find everything going low/high and adjust your zero on the turret, job done. How is this achieved when dialling? I hear people saying "i had to give everything 4 extra clicks" but is that it? Do you just remember how far out your zero is? Is there another way? Atb from a newbie dialler! Alec.