HFT Veterans & Masters

Discussion in 'Hunter (HFT) & Field Target (FT)' started by Gerry, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. Gerry

    Gerry Member

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    Now that we have such big entries for the bigger shoots , is it not time to bring in some age related classes for the older shooters, so that they can shoot classes against similar shooters.
    As in failing eye sight , health problems etc etc .

    In the Military Combat Rifle competitions we had Veterans at 45 onwards & Masters at 50 onwards.

    It worked a treat , keeping older shooters in the game , knowing they could still be competitive against their peers , despite the fact they could no longer run 100m in full kit and shoot 10 shots in under 45 seconds.

    I would like to suggest that the UK HFT heirachy consider this for next year.

    I believe it would certainly motivate the older chaps & make their shooting more meaningful.

    Almost every other sport I can think of has veteran classes & in some cases separate world championships too .:)
     
  2. popsheep

    popsheep Lee Marvin & the Shadows

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    man after my own heart

    Over 60;s I say and we could have our kids carrying our bags as we have had to look after the kids for years
    great idea;WHO SAID THAT???
    GREAT IDEA who said that
    cheers aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    me
     
  3. Scooby

    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    We have already considered it, the computer says NO :D
     
  4. raygun

    raygun Non member

    If an age class cannot be accommodated I would suggest that at least there should be a commode every 5th peg.

    This may go some way to evening things up :D

    ATB
    Ray.
     
  5. nibbley-uk

    nibbley-uk Dirty Daz

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    And maybe a bed so we could have a nap between lanes too.
    Great idea though as i cant see myself still being able to shoot when i get to Bainbridges age :D
     
  6. Charlts

    Charlts Getting dusty

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    How many over 60's are there regularly shooting enough UKAHFT shoots to make it worth while?
     
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    More than .22 & springer shooters
     
  8. Charlts

    Charlts Getting dusty

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    How many is that though?
     
  9. dimmer0707

    dimmer0707 Member

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    And less than Platium shooters :D:D
     
  10. JAGXKRS

    JAGXKRS Sparky's Bodyguard

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    Thought you and Woki just carried a bag and had to be cadrfull on the prone shots Ray:p:p:p
     
  11. JAGXKRS

    JAGXKRS Sparky's Bodyguard

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    Could we call it the "Woki Class":D:D:D
     
  12. g.l.w

    g.l.w Wonky

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    Wondered how long before my name popped up................:rolleyes::D:D:D
     
  13. raygun

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    Hi Chris,
    It's getting up from the prone shots when you get that little dribble. It's not easy you know.

    :D:D:cool:

    ATB
    Ray

    ps. those new pads are a big improvement ;)
     
  14. g.l.w

    g.l.w Wonky

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    I,l be eligable for the masters in a couple years then................:D:D:D
     
  15. Gerry

    Gerry Member

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    Ryan , there would probably be a lot more oldies coming back if we had an old fogies class.

    It is hard to stay motivated to shoot when your vision is fuzzy , your breathing is difficult, your artheritus pains you in certain positions causing your concentration to wander when you are trying to shoot , thats when the oldies say what the hell , & go & plink out of a barn some where .

    Believe me , there are lots of them too !
    And most of us oldies have abused our bodies in earlier times , & pay for it now .


    There are many guys struggling , so I think its a natural progression of things.

    I am suggesting we introduce the class next year, but for now we spread the word on the i-net & get as many of the oldies back in and motivated .

    I think you will be surprised how many oldies will be going for it .:)
     
  16. Sparky

    Sparky Ich dien Staff Member

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    Gerry it wont happen at National level mate, there are plenty of young, middle aged people who suffer everytime they shoot, and we get plenty of older shooters on the national scene that enjoy the sport for what it is, and when you get to a stage that you can't shoot with pain or discomfort it wont matter what class there is you wont be able to shoot.

    Can you honestly say you will get loads of shooters who would want this turning up to at least 6 of the 9 national events?

    Pete
     
  17. chrisc

    chrisc Lucky git

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    Just make sure the oldies haven't had a Viagra the night before or they'll have to go round kneeling.
     
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    Isn't that one of the points Gerry is trying to make. I don't shoot anything but my own club and informal shoots because I am over sixty and disabled. I just cannot shoot the targets that require me to lie down or in some cases even kneel. I don't mind standing for all my shots but I have miss out those that require me to kneel or lie just to be able to see the target! Those setting the courses seem intent on just not allowing for such problems and we get poo-poohed when we mention it. In business it would amount to illegal discrimination so why a sport seems intent on making life hard for us seems against the sports best interests. Some of my friends have given up formal shooting altogether because of that attitude. It's not endemic but it does leave a bad taste when when 'sportsmen' don't ant to accommodate our less fortunate participants. I find that attitude selfish and self seeking and some of those poking fun may well be in the same frustrating position one day and then see if you find it amusing. The fact that some of us don't shoot comps is BECAUSE it's made that way despite our pleas and NOT because we don't want to; hence the lack of disabled and older participants. It's all about 'cause and effect' and the sports regulators need to move in to the present and stop catering for those who shout the loudest.
     
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  19. Witzend

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    Creating seperate classes for the older age group is easily catered for within individual sports and so it should be a viable proposition in HFT in normal competition as is done in other sports example, golf....

    The tournament is run as normal but with senior and super senior scores for over 50's and over 60's
    it's just a case of putting on the competition card a competitors standing and obviously can still win the
    the competition overall if he is one of the hardmen of old age...
    :cool:
     
  20. Sparky

    Sparky Ich dien Staff Member

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    I sympathise with were you are coming from, but at national level you cannot cater for individuals, at club level yes this can be done, but due to terrain and the sport itself you cannot, same as many other sports.
    You say “lack of old and disabled†we have quite a few people who are both older or disabled on the national scene who never ask for courses to be made around them, there will come a day when i wont be able to get around a course but i wont be asking for the format to change to suit me.
    Not sure what rules you go under but we don t force anyone to kneel and if you had a problem with the 3 forced prone, if you approached the organisers beforehand I m sure something would be sorted.


    Pete
     

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