HFT and top guns, whats the score

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  1. LAity

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    Hi all

    Now i know i joke about how good the BSA's are but what level of gun COULD win an HFT comp. We all have a laugh and say that my gun is better than yours but what constitutes a a winning gun?? Why would a BSA not win why would an SMK not win...whats the score?? I know full well there is a level of skill but AGAIN what do you need to win

    your thoughts please .... maybe not Chris:D

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  2. scutter

    scutter Aspiring to mediocrity

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    Is there any gun that has never won a Comp?
     
  3. skipper

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    Well put it this way , a young Lad Kieran 13y/o from 'The Fort AGC' and not (YET) a comp shooter got a 56 with a Hawke scope(?) and an S400 at the MILLRIDE daystate Midland Hunter series.

    Goes to show as long as your in tune with your gear thats 50 % 50% is the frame of mind :)
     
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  4. LAity

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    I make you right, i think most guns will outshoot most of us if not all?? what are you using at the mo bro??

    LAity
     
  5. Sparky

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    BSA & Falcon's have won comps in the past (in the right hands that is:cool:)

    Pete
     
  6. steveggg

    steveggg Trainee Grumps

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    ROGI,

    Most PCP's nowadays will outshoot the majority of us.

    I think there are 2 major points that add to a gun/shooters ability.

    1 Extended use of a combo, which provides knowledge of what it will/won't do and how to get the best out of it.

    2 Confidence in the combo, so you know that if you get a dink it's down to you, and you can recognise it as so.
     
  7. Dave Ramshead

    Dave Ramshead England HFT Team squatter

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    If it's the same lad you are on about....

    Young Kieran Lewis is an exceptional lad where HFT is concerned, IF he sticks at it and his dad can get him on the national circuit he will win the juniors within the next couple years. One to watch.
     
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  9. merlot

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    steyr lg110 or a walther domminator the best there is roger:D
     
  10. raygun

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    I think the "top shots" will always be that due to a higher amount of natural ability. They will cease to be "top shots" when younger shooters overtake them.

    I think if you took say the top ten in UKAHFT and made them swap their guns about, within a couple of weeks they would be turning top class performances in.
    The beauty of the sport is that we can all pit ourselves against these top shots and rate ourselves against them. We can all own guns that will out shoot us but will give us pleasure in the ownership.

    As far as I am concerned the prime requirement of the sport is to enjoy it and we can all do that.
    Don't forget that without the "bad un's" there wouldn't be anyone to be better than :D

    ATB
    Ray.
     
  11. skires

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    If it can group 15mm at 25 yards, 25mm at 35 yards and 40mm at 45 yards it can win a comp ... and most guns can do that.

    I'm sure Sparky will confirm that Tony De Cross used a BSA Superten in the early HFT days and he was one of the top shots back then. He certainly won events ( he won the shoot at Beirut that I organised ).

    Boz
     
  12. sportsmatch

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    your easily pleased I want 15mm @55 yds at most

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  13. skires

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    You don't get many 15mm kills at 55 yards though in HFT Gary.:D

    Boz
     
  14. simmmo

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    No but quite a few17.5mm at 45.
     
  15. skires

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    Ah ok ... so it needs to be capable of grouping 17.5mm at 45 yards.:D

    I was trying say that the gun just has to be capable of putting pellets in the kill zones to be able to win a comp. The rest is up to the shooter ... so virtually any decent gun could win a comp in the right hands.

    Boz
     
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    Well I,ll bow to your experience so a 15mm 25 yd target you will be splitting on all edges same with 25 mm@ 35yds and the same on 45yds so will be winning bugger all with that gun:D best used to knock the pegs in :p

    Gary
     
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    :D

    I see what you are saying Gary. So 10.5mm ctc or 14.9mm outside edge of group at 25 yards etc. Original post was asking if BSAs and other 'non top' guns could win a comp. I was trying make the point that as long as the gun could put all the pellets inside all the kills ( which most decent guns can ) then it COULD win a comp if the shooter was good enough.

    I don't think it's a 'who's got the best kit' thread.

    B;)Z
     
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    Young keiran lewis is a natural shot that has alot of talent and alot of potential in the future, not only is he our clubs (FORT) top junior he often wipes thhe floor with alot of the adults too. He does Fort and his dad proud and i hope he continues in the sport:cool:
     
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    keiran's are good arn't they? We had a young one at our club a few years ago and look how he turned out. He is the current HFT World Champion and good lad to boot.:)
     
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    tell him he's got a mega name:D
     

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