As pointed out above, there are two distinct issues coming out of this thread: 1. Bringing newcomers into FT and 2. A 'classic' division. Taking the first point, I would see the primary drivers of bringing new blood into FT is the clubs, these should be acting as the training grounds to get new shooters hooked. If it is a case of saying the national competition circuit should be altered to accommodate the newcomers, I would have to suggest this is the wrong way of looking at it. There are already grades based upon ability for these competitions I honestly don't see what else could be done. After all the concept of the national GP series of shoots is to challenge the best shooters rather than to stroke the ego's of the rookies, apologies if this sounds harsh as it isn't intended in that manner. FT has a fairly steep learning curve and there is no instant success recipe, even if a shooters pockets are deep enough to afford the most expensive kit out there, the clubs need to be nurturing their new members and avoid pushing them into the major competitions until they are conversant with the elements of the sport, by way of analogy if someone got interested in motor racing, they wouldn't be jumping into the likes of F1 straight off. FT is a fairly unusual shooting sport in that it has not introduced much in the way of equipment classifications unlike many other target shooting sports. For example IPSC (practical shooting) recognised many years ago that an arms race was developing with competitors going for higher capacity magazines, compensators and red dot sights so they introduced equipment classifications. This hasn't stifled development in that sport, the Open division shooters still push the limits of technology and those who prefer to compete with fairly basic kit are not disadvantaged. Would such a thing have worked in FT? - at this point in time who knows, it is far too late to consider any classifications, that boat got missed probably 30 years ago. In terms of what has been called 'retro' or I think a better term would be classic, I think there may be some merit in this as there must be a lot of older FT rifles still around that seldom see the light of day. If such a division could be offered the biggest hurdle would be defining what constitutes a classic FT rifle. In regard of pre-charged pneumatic rifles, I would be inclined to suggest that it should be defined by saying that any rifle adapted or derived from a 10m rifle design should be excluded, so RN10/Pro-Target and its descendants are out as are Steyr's, Walther and FWB etc pcp's. This would in effect leave the likes of Daystate from Huntsman through to CR-X, Air Arms Shamal and 100 Series, Sportsmatch GC2 all marks, Ripley AR3/AR4/AR5 and AR5S, Airstream Mk1 and Mk2, Titan and Falcon rifles, plus any other production or small volume rifles. I would suggest no alloy chassis stocks - just wood / laminate designs. If adjustable elements form part of the design then they should be allowed to be used. Butthooks are possibly a more tricky item, whilst less prevalent on the older FT rifles they have been fitted. Here is a late 1980's advert for an Arimasters FTS HW77 that is 'fully loaded' including butthook: An Airmaster FTXS stock for a GC2: Comes with Adjustable foot and a period Anschutz butthook. This rifle was originally Tom Walton's, I acquired it from him but sold it a few years ago. Airmasters rifles from 1988: Air Arms Shamal serial no 013 fitted in a factory target stock: Factory supplied multi adjustable stock on the NJR100: Target stocked TM100: Anyway moving away from the eye candy, the other issue for a classic class is what to allow in the way of scopes? I would consider it appropriate to suggest the use of a period scope, however they can be a bit difficult to find, so perhaps setting a magnification limit of 32x would allow modern scopes but retain a specification that would have been relatively available at the time period when these classic rifle rifles were popular. Ironically two ideal classic scopes sold on here in the last 24hrs - a pair of Burris 8-32x44 RA's. Summing up I would like to see a classic division in FT to see some more of the old timers getting an airing, I think it would be both fun and interesting to see how they fare against the current crop of rifles.