FT scope for benchrest?

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  1. C.Eaton

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    Ahhhhh I see that sort of unbiased...;)
    Well, I for one am very interested to see what this pretender to the Leup. Comp. Crown has to offer with regard to rangability and temperature stability. In theory it should be pretty good, but of course it's real World testing that counts followed by the omnipresent Holly test of hammering in a fence post with it.
    A choice of a mil-hash reticle would be the icing on the cake...:)
     
  2. NeilM

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    I'll do a Kwick Komparison as soon as I have the Sightron, as even once the review is written there will be a delay before publication.
     
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    While you sort out the cheque non? ;)
     
  4. custompaint

    custompaint Optics Warehouse

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    the 2 measurements of the 45x45 sidewheel are 29.8mm inner, 31.8mm outer.

    the ft 10-50x60 is 35.6mm inner, 37.3mm outer
     
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    Ok so does this come with a wheel or will Jon have to be hassled to crank his machine up again?
     
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    custompaint Optics Warehouse

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    No wheels come with these, keeps the lads with machines in work :)
     
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    Very true, hopefully Jon will see his way to running a few up for eager new owners...
     
  8. custompaint

    custompaint Optics Warehouse

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    as i side note i will have one of these scopes with me at the East Devon GP if people want to take a look!
     
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    I have just done a very kwick side by side with both my Leupold Competitions (both 45mag)and the Sightron.

    Build quality, the Sightron is... well a Sightron. The exit pupil I think is smaller than the Leupold, but easier to acquire than I ever found the 10-50. It is slightly shorter than the Comp and possibly a few grammes lighter.

    Optically there really is nothing between all three scopes, bearing in mind I have perfect light; bright, slightly overcast with 100% cloud cover. The reticule on the Sightron is a 1/10th dot, so effectively just two fine cross hairs, no finer than either my 1/8" dot or No.27 reticules, but if you like a technical ret, you may not like this one.

    The Sightron parallaxes very fast, but I am just using the 50mm control. I have only spend half an hour in the garden so I don't know yet how well spaced the ranges are, that will come with the full review in CompAir.

    I use a 50ft adaptor on both my Comps, I know they can be adjusted to do without but I like mine as they are, both will come under 10 yards. The Sightron just comes down to 10 yards but goes well beyond 55 yards (obvs).

    Turrets are 1/10 and work very well, nice an positive with no slack or backlash.

    So far, there is naff all in it, but I need to test repeatability and depth of field, plus how the Sightron copes with dark / wooded targets.
     
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    So is the ret similar to a target dot in a Leup Comp? ie fine wire with a small dot?
     
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    Yes, but the dot is .1 according to the spec sheet, or tiny in non technical.
     
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    I use both scopes: A Leupold Comp 40X and a Sightron 10-50 MOA with excellent results...The Leupold comp is 40X and is on my HV used for BR/FT, the gun is a RAW TM-1000 , I use this gun for BR and FT (USA 20 ft./lb.)...The Sightron is on a Steyr LG-110 used for LV (12 ft./lb in the USA) ...This scope has optional 1/8" MOA at 100 which makes it very convenient for BR at 25 and is awesome to FT....Both scopes parallax to 9-10 Meters.

    Off the record: This RAW TM-1000 just set the new all time record for Outdoor BR at 25 M in the HV class in the USA, it is a 750-50X just verified by the USARB, this HV gun also shot 11 perfect 250 targets (275 consecutive 10's) in a row and retired without missing.

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    Any chance the Sightron S3 45x45 is going to come with a mildot/milhash reticle?
     
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    Yes, but at present Sightron are looking into the choice of reticule as none of the present patterns have the correct subtension spacings to work correctly at 45 mag.

    It also depends a lot on demand.

    If you are interested, contact Optics Warehouse or John (custompaint) and let them know.

    There will be a review of this scope in the next CompAir.
     
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    I’m starting to get temped if this comes with some kind of hash spacing.

    Some current patterns come with a centre dot in its own, before the crosshairs with pattern on start. Now this would be perfect....

    So how many turns of elevation will it take at 45x zoom from top of arc to either 10 or 55yds?
     
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    Usually less than 1
     
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    Depends on scope mounting height.

    The clicks are 1/10 MOA with 5 MOA adjustment per full rotation. Mounted 3" above the barrel centre it is 1 turn for 55 yards, but past centre for 12, 11 and 10 yards, so you need to hold over. I have to do the same with my Leupold Comps.
     
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    That's a pain :(
     
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    Yes, it is about the only negative I can find.
     
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    It's not a problem that isn't solvable by having a disciplined routine, but it's not ideal.

    For BR 1/10th MOA clicks is dead handy though.
     

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