FT or HFT

Discussion in 'Hunter (HFT) & Field Target (FT)' started by Darron, Sep 14, 2015.

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3 years from now who rules FT or HFT?

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  1. Darron

    Darron Trainee Dwarf Slayer

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    Hi I'm a returning FT shooter and have been surprised at a lot of the changes after 23 years. I can't help but notice the popularity of HFT which wasn't about in my day. I can see the attraction to new target shooters with the lower entry costs ( lower spec scopes mainly) but I was wondering this:
    In 3 years from now will FT still be considered the F1 of air gun shooting or will our camo clad missionary position loving HFT cousins :) firmly be in control of the air gunning outdoor target shooting scene? What do you think?
     
  2. Darron

    Darron Trainee Dwarf Slayer

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    Just bracing myself and checking the width of my shoulders lol;)
     
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    I think of FT as formula 1
    and HFT as touring car
     
  4. chris.allum

    chris.allum Member

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    I think the vast majority of FT shooters would require a hand getting in and out of an f1 car:D
     
  5. Darron

    Darron Trainee Dwarf Slayer

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    Ditto :) is HFT seen as a feeder sport for FT? It would seem a natural progression?:);)
     
  6. Darron

    Darron Trainee Dwarf Slayer

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    Good point Chris but from what I've seen of HFT to date most HFT shooters would be to old to drive it if they could get in it?;)
     
  7. vinny

    vinny WHFTA 2015 World Champion

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    Hmmmm,
    Formula 1, s do cost more than tourers , I bet both drivers are as skilled as each other tho.
    I would like to think both disciplines will be thriving within their own right, however the short time ive been doing hft I do feel that I am expected to travel second class,
    I would also add all the Ft guys ive met on joint ft/hft shoots have been really great , and generally older...
     
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  8. madplinker

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    Hi

    lol I was the same as you about 3 years ago. I shot FT for years in the 80s when springers were the weapons of choice and i shot all around the UK. Then i got back into shooting after a 25 year gap.

    I shoot HFT now both are fun sports i consider both as hard as each other both involve scopes rifles and pellets that is the only thing they have in common. The top shooters in FT cannot beat the top shots in HFT at HFT and the top shots at HFT cannot beat the top shots at FT shooting FT

    So both formula 1

    None of the considered top 10 FT shooters have won the HFT world champs and vice versa

    So FT formula one and HFT banger racing is pish :):):):):):):):) lol
     
  9. Charlts

    Charlts Getting dusty

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    Is the answer to the question not, Leicester City? :D
     
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    since when is touring cars banger racing damn there is some serious money in them cars
     
  11. Darron

    Darron Trainee Dwarf Slayer

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    Outch! That's a bit harsh lol;)
     
  12. Chris Coombes

    Chris Coombes The specialist

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    What ever you shoot just enjoy it,I have shot both,and they are both fantastic sports.


    Chris
     
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    I don't consider HFT as a feeder sport for FT as they are both very different disciplines. HFT is about the ability to rangefinde by eye and the ability to shoot some very small targets on low mag, whereas FT does not have the rangefinding element as much (Due to the ability to use the scope) but shooting a target at 55 yards is much harder then 45.

    Also with 360 shooting the HFT worlds each year and 170 plus shooting the nationals, HFT is going strong in its own right.

    I agree with FT being F1 as the kit they use is amazing, I was looking at some of it on Sunday and from the jackets to the adjustable hamsters, knee risers, butt hooks, slings, and a hole host of kit, the equipment is like being in a pit lane.

    Where as us HFT boys like a wooden peg and a fairly basic rifle and scope, so, stock car is a good analogy.

    No matter what you shoot though, we all have fun and it would be good to have a bit more crossover in the future.
     
  14. mr dink

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    Well there are a few who are good at both, Dave Ramshead and Andy Wilson are doing pretty well at both at the mo and Pete Dutton wasn't too shabby at FT, myself I like both.I think its more a case of time and money to do well at both at the same time imho.
     
  15. Darron

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    For what it's worth as an FT shooter I shot a dedicated HFT course the other day and really enjoyed it. Ok the range finding wasn't an issue with my fancy Dan scope but the target positioning was really intersting and required some thought. I also cheated as I used FT sitting positions instead of that prone business which helped. I agree that there is a place for both sports and it's just great to see the popularity of out door air gun target shooting.
    I would like to see a mixed discipline event in the future where perhaps we shoot FT day one and then HFT day two that would be great fun.
     
  16. skires

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    Didn't Pete Dutton shoot FT and was well respected as a decent shot. I don't know if Pete ever won the FT GP series or Worlds ... but he has won the UKAHFT National series and he has won the HFT World Championships. He's presently leading this year's UKAHFT National series.

    Dave Ramshead is a FT shooter. I don't know if Dave has won the FT GP series but he has been a double UKAHFT National Champ.

    Chris Cundey I'm sure shot FT at AA. Again I don't know if Chris won the FT GP series but he has won the UKAHFT National series.

    The FT guys moving over to ( or doing both ) HFT was a good thing. It tidied up a lot of the original issues.

    HFT prone stance is easier to shoot stable for most so is probably easier for newbies to get decent results. Mag is low though and lots of small kills, so it's not easy. Scoring system makes HFT a more welcoming option for newbies.

    Both very enjoyable.

    Wind is the shooter's worst enemy. Pellets are seriously slowing down beyond 45 yards so wind is far more difficult to cope with in that 45 to 55 yard range.

    Hopefully in 3 years they are both still going strong and people are trying both.
     
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    I don't know where you get "hft weekend warrior" , I wouldn't mind betting I put in more hours per week shooting than most .
    but we should not let this thread divide the two disciplines, both take an amount of different skills which can take us time to learn and master.
    To answer the op's question , do all the ft clubs post their results on this forum because if the results section is anything to go by then there already seems to be more hft comps every weekend?
     
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  18. Welsh Wizard

    Welsh Wizard Im not improving in Nefta Staff Member

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    Not all ft clubs post results here no, in fact only a minority do.

    Swefta run Hft & Ft comps at each league shoot, its a good mix apart from it slows up the shooting on the grounds that have to share the lanes / targets. but that's a land space issue. Many shooters do both, some as competitively as each other, some use one event as a sort of practice

    Still, its a good chance to do both. I have used the Hft as a Warm down after shooting ft if I don't have too long a drive home.
     
  19. Darron

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    Weekend warrior is a popular light hearted term for people who wear camo gear. This post was not designed to cause decision in the disciplines and judging by the other replies it hasn't or won't. I'm sure both top HFT and FT shooters have put a lot of practice in to achieve there goals however there is no doubt that some of the top FT shooters I have met and indeed some I am yet to meet do have a gift and probably don't need to practice to the levels mere mortals do.
     
  20. chrisc

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    I think that quite a few shooters have used HFT as a stepping stone into FT but it has also worked the other way as there's quite a few of the top HFTers that started off in FT. I started in FT, went into HFT and now have returned to the dark side for the NEFTA winter league this year. The kit levels (cost wise) can be very similar in both disciplines with some rigs (in both) running in excess of 5k and yet you can still be competitive with rigs around the £500 - £600 mark, although a decent FT scope is normally the cost that pushed FT slightly ahead for starter rig costs.

    I think it's a crying shame that there are some niggles form either side of the fence but in NEFTA you really don't see much of it at all. Maybe that's because i started off in FT or (more probable) that we have a lot of comps that cross over. In the FT winter league there's a SFT class and in the summer hunter series there's a Stand/kneel FT class. If we have random comps or club comps HFT and FT are 99% catered for.

    I enjoy shooting full stop.....and although quite competitive, it's the banter and social feel i get when shooting both FT and HFT that keeps me coming back. This year i've drifted away from the UKHFT rounds a bit but that was mainly down to changes in personal circumstances that made me want to reduce the amount of miles i do each year.
     

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