FT or HFT which is bigger

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  1. scutter

    scutter Aspiring to mediocrity

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    In a rescent post about FT coverage, Mr Hotshot, mentioned that the magazines cover HFT and benchrest and that he considers these sports to be more obscure forms of Airgun shooting.

    This got me thinking, Is FT still the most dominant form of Airgun competition? When you look at the scores for the GP's and the UKAHFT the GP's have had approxomatly 260 different shooters and the UKAHFT have had about 250.

    When you look at the results board on STB, HFT comps outnumber FT by about 4 to 1 and when you look at the attendances, HFT shoots have slightly moor competitiors.

    Now, this is not a "Lets have a go at FT thread" and if it turns into a slanging match I will delete it. I think HFT and FT are both very valid, however, by looking at the numbers. I realy do think that HFT is now the more dominant competition sport. I may be wrong and if I am I will be more then willing to put my hands up to it.

    What do you guys think?

    Gary
     
  2. Scoch

    Scoch HOW!!!

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    From north of the border Gary, looking at the score sheets HFT is supported more than FT.

    Don't know whether its down to lack of facilities or what but we certainly have more people attend HFT in Scotland.

    One reason I can suggest for this is that HFT events all start and finish at the same time so when a long journey is involved (and most of them are up here) its easier to attend, shoot, attend prize giving and go home.

    I would also suggest that this may be due to having a good format for course setting. By that I mean that if I set out a course for competitions using UKAHFTs guidelines to the letter it will be comparable to any other UKAHFT course. As such this allows us far flung brothers to roughly compare how we are doing in comparison to you southern Jessies (we wont mention the welsh as Sparky has just won something and it will give him a reason to bang on about it)!!!
     
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  3. Scooby

    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    To be honest Gary who really cares, the main thing is that we all go out there and enjoy whatever disipline we choose.

    Let's not turn this into a pissing contest
     
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    It may have come across incorrectly but I was refering to iron plate pistol shooting and benchrest as more obscure.

    I would think that hft had as many if not more participating than ft

    I did not mean to knock any discipline as I am sure people who participate have a passion for their chosen sport and I only used it as an example of what the mags chose to cover over and above FT.

    Dave.
     
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  5. scutter

    scutter Aspiring to mediocrity

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    Hello Dave,

    I know that you did not mean any offense, I am just interested in how things move on. FT is still more the F1 of Airgun shooting where as HFT is more Touring car.

    I just it would be interesting to hear peoples views on both disciplines.
     
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    Gary - I was in Devon on Sunday with my FT gun doing battle and having the pee ripped out of me by a good set of lads (and lasses ;))

    This Sunday I will be up near Newcastle doing the same with my HFT gun and still be getting the pee taken out of me by people.

    I would even like a try at benchrest at some point and blasting away with a pistol has certain appeal as well :)

    I love it all.

    Dave
     
  7. merlot

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    hft ft

    i shoot both hft and ft. thay both have a very big following this year ive missed all the ukhfts to have a go at ft gps which ive enjoyed its a lot harder than you think.the people are great and good fun to shoot with the same as hft wood like to see more coverage of ft in the mags
    danny webb:D:D:D
     
  8. Bill Peat

    Bill Peat TALLENTLESS PUMPERTEER

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    Ft & hft both minorities! Why?

    OF THE CLUBS I GO TO AROUND THE COUNTRY I SEE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE PLINKING, :D

    BUT MOSTLY DRINKING TEA & COFFEE AND SOCIALISING :rolleyes:
     
  9. Charlts

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    Which is biggest? Are we talking length or girth?!:D:p
     
  10. berty177

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    Biggest Ryan??

    Sadly bud,


    Scutter bragged you lack in both haahaa......


    Berty
     
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    FT or HFT

    I can see what Dave is saying, I have said it before when chatting to Mr Sparkes that HFT has a few good lads who get alot into the mags for their sport.

    I know some of our FT lads have done the same but the articles have not been published which is a damn shame.

    I love both sports, FT is my choice due to the fact I have done it for many years and am involved in the BFTA. If I had more time then trust me I would be shooting more HFT comps local or at National level.

    Sometimes threads like this are not great as people will jump on and have a crack etc. HFT is always well attended at regional and National level which is great to see, for FT the last year or two, the numbers have been on the up which shows that both sports are growing and sustaining good numbers, which can only be good for both sports.

    Maybe it would be good to look at more comps with the combination of FT and HFT. I know Nelson is holding the Anglo American next year and we cant wait to combine our 2 sports together to have a cracking weekend together.


    Berty
     
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    Looking forward to the Nelson Anglo, it'll be like my first when you kept James and me up all night drinking lager!:D
     
  13. berty177

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    Me drinking ALCOHOL

    That must have been some time ago bud, I try not to drink before any shoot these days haahaa....

    Looking forward to having you down for the shoot next year. Be a great oppurtunity to combine our 2 great sports.......


    Berty
     
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    To be fair it could've been Dozzy or Sue, it's was a bit blurry - The year big Chris gatecrashed a wedding and missed the shooting totally!!
     
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    Big Chris

    So thats why it was nic and quiet that year haahaa...


    Berty
     
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    got to admit Swefta have it right there, both ft and Hft laid out at each comp.
    I have been shooting the Ft first then having a little plink at Hft, though i do the Hft all kneeling, apart from a couple of standers.

    Really enjoying doing both on the same day.
     
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    Could work

    Im sure we could look at putting on open shoots for both sports to enjoy at every ground.

    We would certainly try our best at Nelson to cater for both as we have been affiliated to UKAHFT. With putting opens on it would help the club grow for HFT as well as FT. Things like this would only make the clubs stronger with members etc....


    Berty
     
  18. HarryF

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    my unbiased opinion is that HFT is a more documented and easier to come across sport. i didnt benchrest ( shot a petes farm ) for 2 years before me and my dad decided to try some thing diffrent, and HFT was the dicipline we chose to do first as there seemed to be more on the internet about and more in the know to other shooters we spoke, weve been doing HFT about half a year now and still havnt tried FT simply because we enjoy HFT so much weve had to reason to try anything else ?
     
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    Heyup serry calps has set up the combined clubs cup challenge and this will be the third year it will be run...If you can get a team or 3 together for this year might be worth a bash as its very intense nerve racking stuff....Its held at anston format is 4 man teams (2 ft shooters combined with 2 hft) teams go head to head with other clubs teams in a knock out style manner (bit like the showdown). Course format is 20 targets per course and there are 3 courses running at the same time in different parts of the ground. 16 out of the 20 are done timed 1 minute for two targets scoring X for hit and 0 for miss.. The remaining 4 targets are shot from inside a covered area so no one can see how the shots are taken as points are scored on those 4 targets 3.2.1 (3 for standing, 2 kneeling, 1 prone/sat) the four targets can be shot in any combination and have a 3 min time limit for the 4 targets. Max possible score from the course is 28 points and to my knowledge in the previous 2 years nobody has managed this. You be amazed how you put yourself under pressure to get those targets in that tent.

    Open to any club throughout the country clubs can enter more than 1 team Held on October 9th at Anston
    Prizes are trophies very nice and unique for top 3 clubs gold siver bronze and each team member gets their own to keep and then theres the one that comes back every year and stamped for the year and club that won....
    2009 winners ponty
    2010 winners redfearns
    See Andy Calps For More Info
     
  20. RobF

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    What I do know is that even FT alone is a more popular sport than scoped fullbore competition in the UK (as told to me by a scope manufacturer)... so with HFT in the mix as well, airgunning is probably a strong contender for shooting sport no.2 behind clay...
     

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