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centre of scope - centre of barrel ?

Discussion in 'General Airgun Chat' started by Kingplinker, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. Kingplinker

    Kingplinker " Horsham HFT champion 2010 "... apparently...

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    Hi all

    I have just finished another s400 set up and will be using an old ( optically superb ) Prostalk 3- 9 x 50 which is a bit of a beast to say the least :eek: As you may know the objective on these scopes is huge meaning that the distance from centre of scope to centre of barrel is quite significant .

    Now I have always used my scopes where they best suit me not as close to the barrel as humanly possible ( I prefer comfortable eye relief over anything else due to a dodgy neck ) :p , how many of you try to set your scope up as close to the barrel as possible as IMO this is not always the best set up possible ?

    I will still use the new set up even if the scope is three feet from the barrel ......... well its a nice bit of glass believe it or not so at least I will see where I missed . lol

    atvb

    Dave
     
  2. Scooby

    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    For HFT I can't see any advantage moving the scope away from the barrel ????
     
  3. RobF

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    Head up is generally more comfortable in all prone disciplines, and thus can reduce problems with strain on eyes and neck, but I would have thought the advantages of sticking a 32mm scope as tight to the barrel as possible could outweigh that...

    i suppose you could always shift the stock's contact points downwards as well, then all all your doing is changing the relationship between scope and barrel as opposed to scope and eye.
     
  4. Feral

    Feral New Member

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    As Rob says Dave, drop the adjustable cheek piece down lower rather than bring the scope up higher... take a look in chairgun by way of illustraation how much those closer aim points open up.
     
  5. Scooby

    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    Seeing as the majority of the targets are prone, including all the reducers a head up position isn't really possible in HFT unless you are a SNAKE:D

    Please don't forget that the Prone position used in most target sports it totally different from the HFT prone position, we are much much lower, often resting the rifle on the ground & not up on our elbows
     
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  6. Sparky

    Sparky Ich dien Staff Member

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    You can tell Rob don't shoot HFT can't you:D:p

    Pete
     
  7. Mog

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    Don't you listen to them Dave, you get that scope as high as you can, I only beat you by one point on Sunday and I don't want you to get that close ever again. HFT High scope = Low points. ;):D:p
     
  8. RobF

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    :p

    Or that I don't shoot it prone ;) :p :D
     
  9. Kingplinker

    Kingplinker " Horsham HFT champion 2010 "... apparently...

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    My plan will work :D

    Damn you all , I will just take the stock off .......... that'll learn ya :p:p:p

    I know it goes against the grain but its so comfortable and well balanced that its probably worth a go .

    atvb

    Dave

    PS : Charles ( Mog ) you must have cheated :cool:
     
  10. Mog

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    Of course, dear boy, is there any other way? ;)
     
  11. Kingplinker

    Kingplinker " Horsham HFT champion 2010 "... apparently...

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    None that I know of , problem is that last week I got a 63 ( no smutty jokes please ) and still only got a silver in the SIHFT :D:D:D
     
  12. JAGXKRS

    JAGXKRS Sparky's Bodyguard

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    So come and shoot the National's, real terms probably still a Silver but at least not every single junior is going to beat you:p:p ;):D
     
  13. Charlts

    Charlts Getting dusty

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    Out of 80?:confused: Or have you borrowed Laity's golf handicap?:D:p;)

    Ryan
     
  14. Kingplinker

    Kingplinker " Horsham HFT champion 2010 "... apparently...

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    No , 180 ......... it was darts in me ole gat gun :D
     
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    5teve L STOP ! HAMMER TIME !

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    I've just gone back to my med mounts which gives me a 2" scope to barrel height Dave.. Used to get on ok with it before & been struggling with low mounts on the long shots.... just means 8 yds is 3 dots & 10 is 2... other than that not alot of difference except now the 45's are a dot insted of a dot & a half which was playing havoc with my head.... The lower mounts prob work better with a 35yd zero TBH.. Just my findings & I think it's more what you are comfortable with & get used to TBH.
    Give it a try on Sunday at the home shoot mate.
     
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    Scooby Pete Dutton

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    It's amazing how all our aim points are so different, my scope is on low mounts & with a 30y zero I'm on 2md for 8y, 1md for 10y & 1md for 45y
     
  17. Kingplinker

    Kingplinker " Horsham HFT champion 2010 "... apparently...

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    This isn't the MPR Steve ( you know , the one I got a gold with ) lol

    Its the s400 in the chunky stock , the scope is nearly level with the stumpy barrel :) and is very well balanced . I just fancied setting it up as a back up gun or even for using for a spot of 'el cheapo FT ?

    Regardless of 25 yard zero's I always find that 8 ( possibly 10 ) yards and ' over ' 40 yards the aim points alter by a 1/4-1 dot where as everything else is the same .

    atvb

    Dave
     
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    With a 25yd zero, I'm getting exactly the same aim points, as above, with an EB Sniper on the Steyr, using 8.44gn Exacts.
     
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    Where's 5teve L? He may have something to say on the subject. ;):D
     

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