BFTA WAFTA Grand Prix 6 @ Tondu

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  1. RobF

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    BFTA WAFTA Grand Prix 6 @ Tondu

    See thebfta.net for details
     
  2. NJR 100

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    I started planning the course a few weeks back.

    last week i started to cut some of the new lanes, ones that as far as i am aware will either never been cut out before or at least have not been used for 10+ years.

    Of course come the day everything will depend on the wind, but its going to be a tough Gp. how tough? dont know, I will judge by the first four but have heard the Sefta (MAD) one is also going to be a tough one.


    current thaughts are to play by 10

    10 long one
    10 average ones
    10 short ones
    10 disaplines
    10 reducer.

    In theory that will produce enough hits so everyone enjoys, but to be top you will have to have hit some tricky targets.

    Lots of ideas and thaught going into the lanes. Some will seem to have very simualr target rangess that take totally different amounts of wid, if its there.

    Some lanes will be high bank shots

    some will be steep, but shorter down ward shots

    Some will be very dark!

    hopefully the course will see lanes with different angles so the firing line sweeps through 360 degree. However, i dont think there is a need to have huge angles between two targets in a lane, the sort where you have to swivel on your seat. So that wont be happening!

    Will put up some of last weeks pics later and then its back to gp prep work Friday!

    Hi - ho
     
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    Progress

    Wel ts been a busy few months.

    Most of the main cutting back for the new lanes etc was done weeks ago.

    Its just a case of going through the lanes now and just using a shears to cut back new groth to keep the lanes clear.

    Tondu gp will be a good walk, not somthing someone one of my unfit being would normall look to do but to me its essential to get new lanes in and sweep the course through 360 of fire, thus getting as many "Bertys" (angles) between lanes as I can and hopefully make it a thinking shooters Gp.

    Calp'es post about virgin lanes has got me thinking more and more over the weeks and as such some of the earlier lane / target postions are have changed. More in my head than anywhere else as the final octations of targets will not be decided until the Friday before the shoot. Targets are going out then, but will be adjusted where i think they need to be and braught in / closer if the frecast given on the Saturday afternoon is for high winds sunday.

    As most lanes are exposed there is no reason to have allot of long targets in the Tondu Wind. missing a 35 yarders on our top section in the wind is very easy!


    There will however be as many new lanes as i can manage for the Gp. I dont usually do that well at my own shoots as i am more concerned with how the course is working, but if i did i would not want anyone saying it was because i knew the lanes. i did not know them at gp 1 or 2!


    The course is essentailly in sections.

    Section 1 is 5 lanes in the top bowl. The "Bowl of Bewilderment"

    so far comprises 4 sitters and one sheltered kneeler. Have had a "test" session on a couple of the lanes so i can gage how strong the wind is and thus differculty of shot for C class and AA class as we have not shot from these lane positions prior. Now thats done I think i have enough answers so targets are away from where i think they will go. Good section, open bowl with some elevated shots the banks

    Section 2 - the Drowning Ponds!

    We have shot these prior in gps and at our last shoot in the winter, where the lanes destroyed all. If the wind is up this is where the Gp will likley to be won or lost.

    only 3 lanes, thats so i cant drop more than 6 along here lol. No, its a bugger with the strings and as said it is very easy to kiss every target, I have done it several times over the variuos shoots we have put on over the top ponds.. Trying for some nagles between the lanes while avoiding cross strings,25ml "Snappy" will be in the wather, if the level is right?l


    Throw me a line

    A is snappy location, if the water level drops. B is a nice angled shot across the pond. does not have to be that far to catch some wicked Wind! Leupold is helping dig a flat shooting position out lol




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    Section 3 - Banks of dome.

    Part of our normal practise range but as said, firing line will be moved and differrent targets on the whole to what is normally used.
    Couple of high bank shots that will have the oppertunity to take misses mixed in with angles and the odd "gimmie":eek: Banks can be hit or miss dependant on wind strength, same as gp2 Banks of Dome which i thaught were average tondu conditions and Fine! Banks finish with (perhaps) a stander as it should be out of wind and nice flat shooting position for feet vbefore a last lane that turns 90 degrees.
    Along the top ponds and banks we will install pallets as wind breaks over the coming months, both sides of the fireing line!



    Section 4 - woods

    well small trees really. we dont have proper woods.:(

    Section will start with our "pipe" lane but possibly as a disapline lane?
    Sillys will slot inbetween lanes and then we have another 3 lanes at edge of trees and through the trees, chrono is in the middle of the woods section so handy when you book in for checking your gun prior to starting. Woods section finishes in "Italy" with a short but steep downward angled lane of mini kills.

    Sectio 5 - bottonm ponds.

    three lanes along the back of the ponds firing outto areas / angles that i dont hink have ever been used? Nice angle lane across the back of the woods,

    This one

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    cuts through a sheltered section into open wind tunnel?



    the darl lane was going to be a 15 ml @ A and either a reducer or full in general direction of B

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    I am now however thinking a nice long one deep into the undergrowth needs to be cut through @ C.
    Shall give Berty a saw and point him off in that direction lol?


    Section finishes with either a kneeler or more likley a stander.


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    Platform is superb for standing, nice and flat and very sterdy, even with me on it. "A" Shot is long across the pond and then as per daft Bfta rules a gimmie short stander at "B".


    Depending on the wind, it will be either one of the hardest courses this year or not, but thats not because it will be boringly all long shots.
    If the winds plays its part, most of the full kills in the 30 -40 or 40 -50 will take misses off the best.

    also now looking at only 3 - 5 x 25 reducers unless the wind is light.
     
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    Booking in

    I have asked rob to open booking in for this go at

    6pm on 6th Day of the 6th month!

    Should be a Devil of a shoot!


    All being Well Rob will switch on wednesday evening, so all shooters know when they can officially Book in.

    Thanks

    Simon
     
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    nemesis 55yrd standing expert, or was it 8 or 9?

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    Is this the same venue where the Wales GP was held two years back?
     
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    Yes, the Windy one:)
     
  7. PaulD

    PaulD I like Feinwerkbau's

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    Looking forward to this one Simon, makes it even better as its in one of my favourite parts of the world. Ive got good friends just down the road in Ton-y-Pandy so i might have time for a catch up :cool:
    p.s has your computer not got a spell checker :D
     
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    Bugger thats next week when I will be mostly internet less as in the middle of nowhere on holiday. About 6 of us from.the Isle of Wight areaiming tl get there for the pm session. Loomong forward to it as always enjoyed the Welsh grounds even if it is windy.
     
  9. NJR 100

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    If your not going to be able to book should it open ok Wednesday, send me an e-mail and i will book you (and anyone else) in that i recieve details for.

    usuall details required,
    name
    bfta number,
    class requiered, indicate if electing to shoot in a higher class.
    anything else

    simon.evans2@ntlworld.com
     
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    Yes, but its in wlesh!
     
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    Make sure you book them in on the site Simon or the system won't know about it... ;)

    Booking to open 6/6 at 6 as per the bfta site headline.
     
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    No worries rob.

    Having thaught about all those black targets at tawd, I think we will ditch our normal policy of black - white -black lanes for gp 6 and have as many White targets as possible.
    Black will only be used where you can see more than two targets in a lane and there is not likley to be many of them, so expect the majority to be White targets.

    i hate yelllow targets! :eek:
     
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    PaulD I like Feinwerkbau's

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    I know one or two who will be upset at the thoughts of white targets, they have ranging problems with them ;)
     
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    Then they need to range find on the rocks / stands that will be holding the targets in place.

    At least for the blind as bats like myself a blury white blob is easier to spot than a black one, depending on the background.
    as i said, they wont all be white.

    They would be Red if I had my way! And I`m coliour blind to "some" Reds !!
     
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    Booking now open
     
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    a busy night

    Approaching 100 entries so get you bookings in.

    A.m. filling up, plenty of room for pm.

    simon
     
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    Deja-Vu

    Funny, thaught i had posted this this morning?

    Anyway.

    These are the names for Pm session at Gp6 /tondu i have

    If your not on here and think you should be, let me know

    simon.evans2@ntlworld.com

    If your on here and NOT wanting to be, let me know




    Alan Holloway
    Andrew Coleman
    Andy Calpin
    Andy slade
    Anthony Johnson
    Ashley Holloway
    Beryl Noon
    Chris Large
    Clinton Bedding
    Connor McFlynn
    Dave Hatfield
    Dave Robinson
    Dave Schofield
    Dean Burfoot
    Derk Bendon
    Doz Falconer
    Geoff Ames
    Geoff Hawes
    Glen Newman
    Harry Beard
    Iain challis
    Ian Challis
    Ian Stoddart
    James Osbourne
    Jason davies
    Jerry Dowdall
    Jo Phipps
    John Kociumbas
    Jon harris
    Jonathan Crocker
    Jonathan Noon
    Josh wilson
    Justin Wood
    Keith Worboyes
    Mark A. Fisher
    Mark R. Fisher
    Mark Sheperd
    Mark Stenton
    Mark Wilson
    Mick Winstanley
    Neil hague
    Neil long
    Neil Rogers
    Neil Thorneycroft
    Nigel Hayman
    Peter Jacob
    Peter Montanez
    Peter Terry
    Phil richies
    Richard Baker
    Rob Farnworth
    Sam barr
    Shaun Shore
    Simon Evans
    Steve kociumbas
    Steve Page
    Steve Privett
    Tim Goodall
    Tony Elderfield
    Tony fouracres
    Will Baskeyfield
     
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    Am names Gp 6 Tondu

    These are the names for Am session at Gp6 /tondu i have

    If your not on here and think you should be, let me know

    simon.evans2@ntlworld.com

    If your on here and NOT wanting to be, let me know


    Adam Danks
    Alec Gibbs
    Andras Fekete-Moro
    Bob O'Neil
    Bobby Banks
    Carl Davies
    Chris Hill
    Chris Keyworth
    Chris Miles
    Colin Richardson
    Craig corbett
    Darren Moore
    Dave Gage
    Dave Harrison
    Dave hill
    Dave Oakes
    Dave Purcell
    Dave Semmens
    Debbie Clarke
    Des Edwards
    Gareth James
    Gary Martin
    Gary Martin
    Gary Powell
    Gilly
    Gordan Eley
    Graham Noyce
    Helen Carragher
    Jack Harris
    Jason Harries
    Jenny Taylor
    Jeremy Stamp
    Jim Nee
    John Costello
    John Jonson
    Kev Sayers
    Lori Richardson
    Lyndeen Calvert
    Mark Bassett
    Mark brewitt
    Matt Hurst
    Micheal g cotter
    Mick Woodhead
    Mike Dalton
    Mike Williams
    Neale Marklew
    Neil daniels
    Nigel hayman
    Paul Dunwoody
    Paula Schofield
    Peter Cook
    Peter Moore
    Phil James
    Rob Long
    Rob O'Neil
    Rob Slaughter
    Russel Summers
    Simon Francis
    Simone Callen
    Stephen James
    Steve Chubb
    Steve Grimshaw
    Steven Lloyd
    Stuart hancox
    Sue Swift
    Tom Gould
    Tony cook
    Tony sultana
    Tony Waistnage
    Wayne Brookes
     
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    Something New??

    Ok I`m not sure if its new.

    I am thinking that at gp 5, Anston, if you want to pay for your Gp 6 entry i will take your Dosh and issue you a Card.

    Lanes allocations have been done for entries so far recieved. I will post those just before gp5

    Yes there will be changes as shooters will then not make it to Gp6.
    There will be a few late lane allocation changes, but that happens in Gps anyway on the day usually?
    Those that have paid and dont turn up will be refunded.


    Worth a try do you think?

    I thaught it would save some queing and thus time come the morning of Gp6?
    Booking in will be open from 7.30 -8.45 on the morning of the Gp for Am shooters, Briefing 8.45 - 8.50!
    Start 9am.:)

    Pm booking in open 10. - 12 ish
    briefing asap after Am finished, targets painted and ready to go at 1 all being well.
    so far Pm is mainly lanes of 2 shooters so hopefully we will go through pm session failry quickly


    Booking in will also be open on the Saturday before the shoot for any shooters coming down and staying over night.
    Oaktree will be open so there is a full 40 shot course out and its a testing one in the wind. I will be between Tondu and Oaktree on the saturday, its only a mile between the two.
     
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    Neil-T Boingers forever.

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    You just want some early beer and pie money Simon.....:p
     

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