Best Butt Plate for FT?

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  1. Red8989

    Red8989 Member

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    I've been using a System gemini for a few months now and I just can't get on with it, way too much adjustment to tempt your mind to play with. Also for standing shooting I find it is too bulky and gets in the way a bit.

    I've been looking at the Grunig & Elmiger butt plates and they seem to be highly rated in 3P shooting so they can't be that bad for field target?
     
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  2. Welsh Wizard

    Welsh Wizard Im not improving in Nefta Staff Member

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    takes time to get a gemini set right. have an experienced AA grade shooter take a look at it with you.
     
  3. RobF

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    I'm not sure there is a perfect one... and they do all take some adjustment and setting up. The closer you get it fitting to exactly right for one position will mean you will have to move it for another, otherwise your natural point of aim is off. What you can do is use a butt that is more accommodating of the positions, jack of all, master of none so to speak. Some don't even use hooks so they have more to play with without adjusting. The more accommodating it is, the less specific it is.

    I've got them all, MEC III with hook, MEC freeposition, Anschutz armadllo, Anchutz 4765, G&E Return, System Gemini... they all have their pros, they all have their cons. I'm starting to lean against the narrower butts because they go into my shoulder better. The G&E Return I have is more like a thin armadillo... I like it. The downside is the cost!

    But firstly you need to make sure they fit. The hook isn't there as a rest, it's to locate precisely, so you want it to go under your arm in the crease, not 2" below and it shouldn't press against your ribs so that breathing affects it, or your arm so the artery induces pulse. Same with the ears, they are supposed to contour your shoulder, not have gaps or sit in thin air.

    Worth getting into position, and getting a few photos of you in that position to see what actually is going on. Chances are you may not have it fitting right. But bear in mind, what can or does fit you may not fit someone else, because they may be a different shape and size.

    Also a well fitting jacket that doesn't ruffle up or puff out, will make better contact with the shoulder, and wont move a lot either, allowing you to fit the plate better, and more consistently. This is one of the overlooked benefits of a shooting jacket. Assuming my shape doesn't change much, and i wear the same things, that shoulder location is consistent on my rifle.

    plenty to choose from

    http://www.intershoot.co.uk/acatalog/Buttplates.html
     
  4. Yorkshiretea

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    Conor is one of the few I've seen change his for different positions, maybe he can offer some advice but sound advice from Rob there.
     
  5. saddler

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    I've had mine around 5 years now and I still haven't got the fitment right, but of all the bells, whistles & widgets I've bought to try and overcome a startling lack of talent, the Gemini is by far the best addition to my gun.
    Persevere with it.
     
  6. Red8989

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    Thanks for all the advice guys, I might experiment with a few different butt plates to find one I prefer. :)
     
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    Baggy first dibs on your Gemini if you're getting rid fella:D
     
  8. DeanB

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    Depending on what the Gemini replaced, it can feel a bit a heavy and upset the balance.
    Dean
     
  9. nemesis

    nemesis 55yrd standing expert, or was it 8 or 9?

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    Sounds like you've got it adjusted wrong. Stop trying to get it so precise, get a base setting and work from there. Remember you've not been shooting long, this is part of your learning curve. When you've got it adjusted right you'll find that for each position ie standing, kneeling, and off the bag, it will need lowering or moving higher. If you find that you don't need to do this, ie one setting suits all position's, then you've got it wrong. Learn from your mistakes and persivir with it and read your book.;):)
     
  10. Welsh Wizard

    Welsh Wizard Im not improving in Nefta Staff Member

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    what powder ( soon to be banned) puff said.
     
  11. Red8989

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    I've got the hang of putting it higher or lower for the different positions, now I've just got to get the fit just right, anyway I'll have a mess around with it today and see how I can improve the fit.
     

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