i shot my 800 tonight, up against the 9015 for the first time. The 800 is a 16J FT version, and I hate the stock, totally wrong for BR, I struggled to get a decent hand position support at the rear end. But when I did, amazing, so much less pellet fussy than the 9015, shot 10s on most pellets, seemed to like the JSB premium the best, which the 9015 won’t group at all on. Funny thing, maybe it’s the metal FT stock, but the 800 has a lot more going on, can feel the shot, and hear it all happen thru the cheek piece, while the 9015 is completely dead. Still, at 20m the 800 seems more accurate on pellets straight from the tin, with the 9015 I need a specific batch, sorted, guaged and weighed to get that level of accuracy. Not much in it trigger wise, the 9015 has the edge though. The 800 was supposed to be my backup rifle, but it could end up being prime, maybe I need the basic wooden stock instead of the silly metal one to be perfect! The 9015 is the better rifle to shoot in its benchrest stock, it feels very natural and dead. The 800 is so mechanical and metallic by comparison, but at the moment, more accurate... Geoff.