20 joules is the new FAC limit in France

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  1. flyfisher

    flyfisher Member

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    Hello,

    The law which governs the possession of weapons just changed in France.
    The new decree has just been published by the government .
    Before this new law, the maximum power allowed to hold an airgun without having a special licence( FAC) was 10 joules max. Over this power, a shooting license or an hunting licence was absolutly necessary .

    Now the power limit for the non fac air rifle is 20 joules max. This means that the sale of airguns under 20 j is obsolutly free.

    This is a very good news for FT / hft shooters who before this law were to enroll in a French Shooting club and must wait six months before to have the rigth to buy and holding an airifle .:eek:o


    Now we are free from this constraint that costed at least 100 euros per year with the obligation to regurarly practice in a government-approved shooting club.

    as someone said before me :today i have a dream "Free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last":)

    Today the French FT makes a great step
    :):)

    Robert
     
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  2. Brian.Samson

    Brian.Samson Allowed in Sales Staff Member

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    That's excellent news!

    With France being so close and easy to get to, it would be fantastic to get some international competitions running between France and the UK.
     
  3. rich

    rich Active Member

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    It would be very interesting to learn how that 20 joules is defined in the new legislation; for example, is the word "capable" used?

    Maybe it would be a model for a sensible EU-wide piece of legislation.
     
  4. Shaun

    Shaun Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Robert

    I too hope that this means UK shooters will be able to visit France.

    I can ask for a beer in Spanish, hopefully I'll have to practise the same in French :)

    Shaun
     
  5. fireblade

    fireblade Team AirArms

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    Fantastic news :D
     
  6. peterh

    peterh Stoopit forriner.

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    Congratulations from Pays-Bas! (that's French for 'the low country') That is great news! :D

    And Belgium and France! And the Dutch and the Germans and, on the south, the the Spanish and the Portuguese might like to be in as well!
    France has a great shooting potential, although when I talked to Dave Monck, who owned a house there, he told me that air rifles are generally frowned upon because of a heavy (mainly agricultural) preference for firearms. A healthy competition climate might change that.

    I'm really, really happy with this!
     
  7. RobF

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    Wow. No efp! Euskadi road trip and shoot in France as well?

    Anyone in the Cherbourg area have an ft club? It's only 60 litres there from here :D
     
  8. peterh

    peterh Stoopit forriner.

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    Beer??!? In France? I'd ask for une vin rouge, mais oui...

    If you want beer, you go like:
    "Une bière, s'il vous plaît"

    or, if you want a draught:

    "Une pression, s'il vous plaît".

    Works for me. :D
     
  9. fireblade

    fireblade Team AirArms

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    My Thoughts Exactly rob:D

    ROAD TRIP!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. RobF

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    Was thinking of going as the crow flies ;)
     
  11. Tesla

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    Congratulations for the French shooters .....and for the rest of foreigner shooters too!.
    It's a big surprise indeed!.
    It would be good TO KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN THE PROCESS to obtain the law change!!!. Is it possible?. Is there someone who can be "diving" in the administration to reach this information?.
    This is a precious reference to be used in other countries.
    Regards.
     
  12. raygun

    raygun Non member

    Perhaps the U.K. can now go to 20 joules and remove the "capable" bit in the interests of European harmony.

    ATB
    Ray.
     
  13. JerryD

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    20 joules: 14.75ft-lbs, or 887fps for 8.44. Likey!:D

    What does 10% faster mean in terms of flatter trajectory/wind deflection?




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    A much easier game of darts!
     
  15. flyfisher

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    Hello ,

    the new legal limit of 20 joules is a legal limit nothing else.

    We will continue to practice FT with 16 joules airguns.
    We started in respecting FT (copying) the English rules and we will continue on this way

    it is difficult for us to set forth this discipline with french shooters. the way that will lead to the recognition of our sport is still long and bumpy.

    Thisis only 3 years that we have created the first FT friends meeting who lead to the creation of the AFFT. We are still full of ignorance and we lack a lot of experience.
    the future is ahead of us and we hope that this new law will help us to have more members.

    Thank you for your enthusiasm and support, the world of FT grows but remains small enough for everyone knows everybody and supports ( help) all other shooters ( assiciations) in the world.

    Play FT and have good time

    Robert

    :)
     
  16. Delphinus

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    Robert great news, no more transfer port swap for traveling.

    Now the most beautiful FT course, Millau will have the number of shooters it deserves.
     

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