10m uk popularity

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  1. Pistol13

    Pistol13 New Member

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    Yeah, why is it not so popular here. I cannot get my head around it. Massive in europe, india etc. Do you think its the specialist equiment? Confused.
     
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    Lack of clubs, little promotion/marketing of the sport, specialist equipment (especially 10m rifle) and therefore costs, not glamorous, it's very difficult, it's not 'cool', lots of other options open to UK shooters that there might not be in the countries you mention.
     
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    As above.
     
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    Man, its a real shame. I would think it would be the easiest to set up space wise. Plus any .177 rifle with diopters would work for newbies/beginners. The precihole post i made a few days ago do just that. Hw30 is available with diopters as well.
     
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    I agree with JamesO's points. 10m is also not an especially prominent part of Airgunning in general which normally focuses on Plinking and HFT/FT even though it's the only side of our sport represented at Olympic level.

    Possibly, the commitment (both mentally and financially) required and the sheer seriousness of it all dissuades a lot of people from trying?
     
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  6. Conor

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    In my own personal experience 10m is virtually a secret organisation ran by dinosaurs.
    The 10m shooting range in the HQ Bisley is inadequate for serious competitions of national and international level.
    Lack of infrastructure, media coverage, coaches, clubs, competitions and active PR mean it will remain a somewhat ‘secret’ organisation.
     
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    Little strange to read this post. That it could be so different between countries.
    In Sweden 10 m is dominating airgun shooting.
    Many clubs and lot of young people shooting it and big comps, with
    more than 100 taking part.
    FT is struggeling even if we try to promote it and make it bigger.
    Just opposite as James O described.
     
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    Differences in attitudes in those countries where it's popular?

    Is the difference that it is promoted as a sport in schools in the countries where it is popular - whereas any shooting sport in UK state schools is treated as a heinous crime.

    Thoughst from our international members - is it a sport that schools promote?
     
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    In South Africa, there used to be rimfire target shooting in some schools that has been replaced by air rifle 3P shooting - seems quite popular from what I understand.
     
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    I really wanted to shoot 10m rifle quite a few years back, but was advised not to by the 10m club, as to shoot competitively, you need not only the rifle, but boots, trousers, jacket.
    If a club could offer 10m "lite" as I think some do (ie a club level rifle only with no specialised clothing) I think it would have more popularity.

    Possibly this is where bell target is in this country.
    I really enjoy bell target when I get to go.


    Geoff.
     
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    10m Lite.

    I like the idea of that - relatively inexpensive guns like the HW30S, casual clothes, lower amount of shots per competition and no need for a sense of humour bypass operation.

    Someone please make it happen.
     
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    In fairness you do not need all the kit to shoot at a reasonable standard, although a jacket wouldn't hurt.
    There are plenty of postal competitions that are run by different regional organisations and the nsra where you shoot in leagues against those with similar averages.
    But this is where the club's have to do their bit in the promotion and administration which can be all consuming for a club captain.

    Like everything in shooting it's finding those willing to give their time for others enjoyment!
     
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    Ain't that the truth!
     
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    Yes!
    This is what I'm getting at. No need for the latest pcp super rifle.
    Much more casual.
     
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    The specialist clothing is a preventative measure against serious long term back injury aswell as aiding support
     
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    I've been shooting 10m and 20yard pistol for a few years at various clubs and recently my HFT/FT club has started to do the pistol shooting too (postal) as we've now got an indoor area. At the moment there are a few people trying it. I hope they will keep going for more than a season. Pistol is much less faff than the rifle and cheaper to participate with.
     
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    Staff members seem to live a blinked life as to other shooters interest in lobing pellets. Shane to criticise
     
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    Sorry ment insane to criticise
     
  19. Prone Shooter

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    Our club (BARPC) was founded on paper punching back in 1975 at 6 yards for both pistol and rifle. FT hadn't been started or to my knowledge, even thought about so formal air gun comps would have been paper target based or bell target. As FT and HFT etc have evolved over the years, so the popularity of 10m has dwindled. We still have an indoor section but only around 8 of our 140+ members shoot indoors. We've tried various incentives to try and get people to have a go but very few are interested.

    Boring, not exciting enough, equipment to expensive, too specialised, too difficult , not good enough, too much like hard work, too serious, too competitive etc etc are all reasons given but with the possibly arguable exception of cost (Though you could buy in 2nd hand or entry level like a Gamo Compact) all are just excuses not to try one of the most challenging and enjoyable disciplines in airgun competition shooting.

    As to support and coaching, it is out there if you look.

    Bob
     
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    Hi firstly I would like to say that I am interested and do most of all the disciplines or air rifle/pistol shooting, however I have searched to find any shooting club that has a 10m indoor range in or around the Sussex borders for Match pistol & rifle shooting without success, unless someone knows otherwise ?

    It is such a shame as although it’s not difficult to make your own range subject to space, there is no other comradely or sharing and gaining advice or even tuition, the nearest 10m facilities is Bisley which is a long trek away, but on visiting Bisley recently it was full of young people, scouts, schools, sea cadets even student groups, obviously to start or add on a 10m facility to an existing club there needs to be enough interested in taking it seriously and funds.

    I agree with comments beforehand and feel that the neglected 10m facility of good quality clubs is a great shame, it’s An Olympic sport yet it’s not promoted to my knowledge in any way or has at least one club per county to enjoy this great sport, nor does it have to be expensive as I recently purchased a fabulous Walther LP300 for £250.
     

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